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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 16, 2008 6:44:23 GMT -5
oaks
DIAMOND JEDI
Late night thoughts re STING(s)...
« Thread Started Today at 2:11am »
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How to raise a whopping amount of money by STINGING the Shadow Banking System....and probably doing it LEGALLY at that.....
Let's use $250 million as the SEED MONEY. The seed money would have come from issuing 700 bill shares and then naked shorting those shares up to 10 times or 7 TRILLION shares! The more money raised going in, the better the LEVERAGE opportunity.
Is it possible that $250 million in seed money was RAISED via the SALE and NAKED SHORTING of CMKX stock and then this CAPITAL was INVESTED and HIGHLY LEVERAGED within the Shadow Banking using DERIVATIVES and other HIGHLY COMPLEX FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS where the LEVERAGE can be as HIGH AS 100:1 ??
Hmmmmmmmm. $250 mill times 100 = $25 billion
WOW that worked well. How about if we take the $25 bill. and ROLL the DICE again for a further conservative 50 times gain.
Hmmmmmmmm. $25 bill times 50 = $1.25 trillion
Recent Headline:
Citigroup's $1.1 Trillion of Mysterious Assets "Shadows" Earnings
Begins with Citi and ends with Citi? However, in between the beginning and the end could other FINANCIAL ORGANIZATIONS have been utilized to HEDGE THE INVESTMENT and SPREAD the RISK?
Interesting thing is one could argue that NOTHING ILLEGAL occurred to ARBITRAGE a HUGE WIN for CMKX SHAREHOLDERS!!
Urban said:
IT'S ALL FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS !
The Shadow Banking System could have provided the FINANCIAL VEHICLE to pull it off.
I look forward to comments from our great forum members.
Oaks (aimho)
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 17, 2008 6:29:53 GMT -5
Another IMO "credible" person says we GET PAID! « Thread Started Today at 11:11pm » Would not be appropriate at this point to name this person, but I got to say my friends, it is VERY VERY interesting that individuals such as this would be voicing their OPTIMISM! So stay strong, keep the faith and maybe, just maybe we are closer than we have ever been to seeing CMKX shareholder VINDICATION! Oaks (aimho)  |
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 17, 2008 20:33:25 GMT -5
oaks
DIAMOND JEDI
Re: Another IMO "credible" person says we GET PAID
« Result #4 Today at 8:28am »
Well one thing I can absolutely confirm is it is not Urban!! I have not had ANY contact with him since April/06.
My friends...it is not real until it actually happens but I am feeling pretty optimistic about this because others are CONFIRMING what I have heard and that is generally a VERY good sign of VALIDITY.
Remain PATIENT. Keep your yourselves CALM. ALWAYS EVENT DRIVEN...not TIME...
but I do sincerely HOPE it is CMKX SHAREHOLDERS TIME for...
STINGING VINDICATION !!
Oaks (aimho)
oaks
DIAMOND JEDI
Re: Another IMO "credible" person says we GET PAID« Result #3 Today at 8:57am »
Hi Janet...
I believe there has ALWAYS been a desire to communicate with shareholders and these forums are an incredible way to get info out carefully, but yet unconfirmed. However, CMKX is very complicated and there are many things at play and people close have to be very careful. This is why everything I say is only my opinion until it is "official" and "real" It protects those who are truly working in the BEST interests of the STAKEHOLDERS...being US! This is certainly NOT the time to put any flys in the ointment by naming specific names and comprimising what could finally be OUR TIME.
I don't think there is anyone on this planet who wants VINDICATION for my fellow shareholders more than myself. If you WIN then I do as well and that is always how I have looked at CMKX and the role I played. I have no control over anything that may be happening but there is not a day goes by that I don't continue to hope with all my heart.
Have a wonderful day.
Oaks (aimho)
oaks
DIAMOND JEDI
Re: Another IMO "credible" person says we GET PAID
« Result #1 Today at 10:07am »
What I will tell you all is IMO the person this information is coming from is the STRONGEST in terms of CREDIBILITY (no it is not Mr. Maheu either) throughout our CMKX journey.
This is NOT just another shareholder. This is a person of STATURE and PROFESSION. IMO, if it turned out to not be true, this person could be compromising himself to a degree. There is RISK attached to this person going out on the line like this, so it makes no sense to disclose who it is.
I think others here who have heard DIRECTLY the same information from this person or those VERY CLOSE to this individual would agree with me on these points.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE....
Stay Grounded and DON'T go spending money that you DON'T HAVE as yet.
Just let it happen, but DO continue to SUPPORT each other and KEEP all your FINGERS and TOES crossed and say a PRAYER if you are so INCLINED.
There is no doubt I have been discouraged along the way at times, but I always, often with this forum's help come around to my GUT BELIEF we would WIN and be STINGINGLY VINDICATED.
Have an awesome day and I will check in later this afternoon.
Oaks (aimho)
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 18, 2008 6:48:09 GMT -5
All I can say is what I have said before. IMO, when all is said and done you will probably be surprised as to who was a good guy and who was a bad guy. I would expect that along the way some who were good went bad and vice versa. Mr. Edwards is a pretty mysterious character so who the heck knows what his true role has been throughout, along with many others. My friends...the bottom line is all I want is for us to win and I don't really care how it happens as long as it happens, afterwhich there will be ample and appropriate time to thank and appreciate the players who are deserving of our gratitude. I do not know anything about possible amounts or when this may finally happen or for that matter how it will actually happen. Enjoy your evening. I am going to have a cold one and toast all my friends here. Oaks (aimho)  |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 18, 2008 7:08:43 GMT -5
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 18, 2008 9:56:34 GMT -5
Re: Regarding the latest SEC document... « Reply #4 Today at 9:34am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember Urban saying very early on it was all in the PR's. STING from day one or even before....IMO As to shareholder compensation and vindication: RELAX my fellow shareholders as I feel we would not have come this far and suffered so much angst along the way to receive a mere pittance when all is said and done. I believe we will on balance be happy when the time comes. Enjoy your day everyone. GOT CMKX? Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21093&page=1#259318 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 19, 2008 5:17:51 GMT -5
Re: VINDICATION LLC « Reply #11 Yesterday at 11:11pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I use the word vindication because it so appropriately describes how I think the majority of CMKX shareholders will feel. When we finally hold a proper gathering to celebrate I suggest we call it the: CMKX SHAREHOLDER VINDICATION PARTY. I will relish with delight to know we beat the enemy for the rest of my life. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21108&page=1 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 19, 2008 8:01:17 GMT -5
Re: New thread as the other is pretty long now... « Reply #26 Today at 1:50am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL...you guys are killing me. What I will tell you is my source is a different person in a direct manner if you will. OK...chew on that for awhile...LOL Look at it this way. This is like working on a news story for the New York Times or LA Times or any other paper for that matter. A good reporter NEVER EVER reveals their source in a public manner. It is simply how the game is played if you know how to play the game in a professional manner. My posting again is driven by my sole desire to keep shareholders encouraged. I have no other personal motive other than knowing that if you all win, then I will as well. When we have won and upon the OK of my source or possible sources, then might be the time to reveal their names, if only to properly acknowledge their roles, but let's get to that point first and then we will see. I can't speak for others who have heard the same information I have recently, as to them maintaining and honouring the importance IMO of NOT identifying people by name. However, so far it appears everyone agrees it is the right thing to do and I applaud and encourage everyone to stay the course in this regard. Cheers. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21088&page=2#259620 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 19, 2008 10:45:55 GMT -5
Re: New thread as the other is pretty long now... « Reply #30 Today at 10:01am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Bozzy...really sorry about your dad mate. I have not heard ANY mention of amounts or dates, so I am not making any predictions in that regard. All I have heard is that on balance shareholders will be happy, but that is a relative thing...LOL We just have to continue supporting each other and let the people working on our behalf do their work. Cheers. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21088&page=2#259672 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 19, 2008 10:50:10 GMT -5
holein1par4 posted: Here is why I believe we will be paid « Thread Started Today at 10:12am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just my opinion but I have always thought this....Our government has proven over decades and decades that they have no problem what so ever SCREWING "we the people" Look back at history and see how many times our elected officials have had NO problem fleecing us from our hard earned, heavily taxed money. BUT, BUT, unfortunatly for them, and fortunatly for us during the big pump "Got CMKX?" Not just the easily screwable Americans purchased this stock. Thankfully people, entity's, company's, and even governments purchased this stock on the PUMP. Our banks, clearing systems, SEC, Borkers, and government are having trouble answering to these entity's the question "where is our money", where is our damages that are due us, where is our $ 1.00 per share plus valuation owed us due to OUR own rules??? This is why I believe we will be paid. You can screw us but if you screw people, companys, and governments from other countrys the WORLD will NEVER ever trust the US trading system, or the US government again. So, when they get paid, I believe we get paid. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. All in my honest opinion of course. Oh and dear lord I hope I am right. Okay tear me apart. Holein1par4 oaks toasted a beer millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21121&page=1#259689 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 20, 2008 7:42:29 GMT -5
Re: Will we get shares of other Co'S for our CMKX? « Reply #12 Today at 1:14am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Think of your bona fide certificates as units of possible multiple value streams rather than specifically CMKX shares. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will IMO never trade again, at least under it's current share structure. However, by being a bona fide shareholder you will be entitled to any and all that comes our way. Just how I think it will play out. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21136&page=1#259849************** Andy quick ? Old source or new one tia take care pennypauly Re: A Question For Andy Oaks. « Reply #27 Today at 1:19am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pennypauly... Sort of in between...LOL I am sure that is not what you wanted me to say, but that is the best I can come up with...LOL Oaks (that was sort of an opinion) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21115&page=2#259850*********** from supercim: Re: New thread as the other is pretty long now... « Reply #38 Yesterday at 10:03pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy : My son's doctor said he must have his legs fixed again within 6 -8 months in hope to walk again... I really need money for my son's fifth surgery. Do you think we may get paid by that time ? I don't hope for much, but .005-pps would really help. Re: New thread as the other is pretty long now... « Reply #39 Today at 1:32am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Super... I will not in any way make any predictions at to amounts or timing as I have no information regarding either. Personally, I remain very conservative as it make little sense to elevate expecations beyond this when everything is still rumoured, no matter how credible the source. I feel it is very important for shareholders to make financial and family related decisions without relying on receiving compensation from CMKX, no matter how strongly we believe it will happen, simply because we have absolutely no control over it actually happening and how much and when. Don't know if that makes sense or it is what you want for feedback and I hope I am not seen as telling you what to do my friend. Cheers. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21088&page=2#259851************ from bobbybdb: Yesterday at 10:46am, oaks wrote: Hi Andy, I think you had better put that down, we need you with a clear sharp mind these next few days. .lol. Re: Here is why I believe we will be paid « Reply #6 Today at 1:34am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Bob.... (oaks had a few more beers) lol Oaks millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21121&page=1#259852 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 20, 2008 11:11:51 GMT -5
Re: SEC Vomit « Reply #3 Today at 10:20am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Even more depressing was the fact the interviewers on CNBC still had no clue as to what Naked Shorting is vs shorting. Cox tried to explain it several times to no avail. Cox has an opportunity in the next few weeks to properly extend his decision to target naked shorters if he will simply recognize how badly it has hit the micros and true penny stocks for many years. Unfortunately he probably will not seize the moment. Cramer was terrific in that segment almost screaming SHO already had you covered Coxy old bean and your newest action is making you look silly flapping your arms in the air when you already had the power to fly. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21148&page=1#259878 |
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 20, 2008 15:30:48 GMT -5
By: cbaughan 20 Jul 2008, 04:02 PM EDT Msg. 743873 of 743885 Jump to msg. # Andy Hill in Mona's room tomorrow  ) |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 20, 2008 22:09:33 GMT -5
Re: IMO: SEC Vomit « Reply #16 Today at 2:52pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regular shorting provides a very necessary balance to the markets. However they should have left in the uptick rule IMO. The blatant naked shorting should be BANNED and ENFORCED on EVERY LEVEL of the markets. The MM's should also have to abide by the same rules and not be exempt. Come on COX.....do your JOB !!!!! Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21148&page=1#259940 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 20, 2008 22:10:14 GMT -5
Re: IMO: SEC Vomit « Reply #18 Today at 5:04pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regular shorting can have it's downside, ie the last couple of trading days last week when alot of stocks recovered very nicely. A shorter can be infinately out of the money on a squeeze which is exactly what we saw last week. But that is precisely what brings balance back to the market. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21148&page=1#259961 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 21, 2008 5:55:36 GMT -5
Re: IMO: SEC Vomit « Reply #30 Today at 2:54am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone here think Mr. Cox understands naked shorting with regard to the Shadow Banking System? Kind of why they call it SHADOW as very few people do. Example: A friend of mine trades hedge funds for a living. One of his funds is running 14% return year to date which is pretty darn good considering the market melt down recently. The guy who runs the fund has 3 PHD's and was FIRST in his class at MIT. This guy is in the game like it was the MATRIX. People like Cox don't even know what the game is yet they think they are in control of the rules of the game? They are so far behind the curve it is sad. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21148&page=2#260059 |
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Post by sandi66 on Jul 21, 2008 5:56:56 GMT -5
Re: New thread as the other is pretty long now... « Reply #60 Today at 2:10am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am trying to sort out all the non guru predictions for good news/roi/payouts/what have you. Tuscan, Mona, Ines, oaks, Andy, Abad. AM I missing anybody? Or did i mistakenly include somebody. Just something to help pass the time. Thanks For all yor great posts everybody! Petesmusic Re: New thread as the other is pretty long now... « Reply #61 Today at 2:55am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I prefer to be just a shareholder like the rest of you. Oaks millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=21088&page=4#260061 |
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 22, 2008 6:28:50 GMT -5
Re: The Rumor Mill...."Smoking Hot!"
« Reply #2925 Today at 5:58am »
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Re: weekly buzz - 7/21
« Reply #5 Yesterday at 11:32pm »
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ty oaks
Spoke with the same source again today..
« Thread Started Today at 7:41pm »
I wanted to clarify better in what context the optimism relayed previously was derived. This individual does not want to be taken out of context or embellished, precisely why I consider this person credible.
I believe this person is speaking from their own individual shareholder perspective as opposed to a professional standpoint, but is no doubt knowledgable in their own right. This is IMO a very important distinction.
While there is optimism, I don't believe this person knows or has been told of any amounts or exact timelines.
So perhaps I was a bit too exuberant? If so I apologize.
I myself remain optimistic that everything happening is for our ultimate benefit.
I still say STING even before CMKX took over the public shell from Cybermark. Many aspects of the DD process point to this.
Cheers.
Oaks (aimho)
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 22, 2008 6:51:41 GMT -5
faithandlogic
Ace of Diamonds
Re: Oaks - Late night thoughts re STING(s)...
« Reply #2 on Jul 16, 2008, 3:01pm »
If everyone remembers.. About three or so years ago, in Sterling's Classroom on Raging Bull.. Shareholders that had spoken with U.C., were discussing how that this was a sting operation.. It appears now that they were right.. Some of those same shareholders were speaking of hugh value, that CMKM had diamonds, oil, gold, uranium and so forth.. Could they have been right about that also?
I remember one shareholder saying that they needed a vehicle that had value in order for the sting to work.. If they used a company that had no value, to do what they needed to do, then the investors would loose their investment at the cost of catching the evil doers.. However, by using a pink sheet company that has value, they could set up a sting operation to catch the crooks and to allow the good guys to win in the end..
U.C. wasn't communicating much at all there at the end, but he wanted to tell us something.. Of all the things he could possibly say, or messages that he might have given.. He told Melvin just to tell us one thing... "If your in you win, if in doubt get out"..
U.C. knew the ending, from the beginning.. IMO.. His brother Ron at the Race track told us that U.C. was following a carefully planned script.. Some shareholders returning from the race track after meeting him for the first time.. Described him as being a very intellegent man..
It would have taking a mastermind to come up with something like this...
Shareholders were also saying who that Mastermind was... Maheu, and maybe they were right about that also..
I read an article one time, that painted a different picture about the life of Howard Hughes.. Some of you may have seen it or heard about it before.. The article discribed Maheu as the Mastermind behind a plan to remove Las Vegas casino's out of the hands of the mob and into the hands of legitimate businessmen.. In order for the plan to work, they needed a businessman that had lots of money. The Howard Hughes enterprise was the vehicle.. Maybe everything didn't go exactly as planned... Maybe Hughes rebelled at times, or thought they were going to far.. In the end Hughes was the first wealthy businessman to own casino's in Las Vegas.. Maheu had somehow single handedly persuaded the mafia to sale those casino's.. Wonder what his wild card was? What was he holding over their heads? Was he threatening to close them all down if they didn't cooperate?
Maheu needed a vehicle worth money in order for his plan to succeed... An undercover FBI agent, wouldn't have worked.. He needed someone like Howard Hughes..
Howard Hughes was known for bribing Presidents.. Maheu was the one that delivered the money.. He needed someone who appeared to have power over Presidents for his plan to work.. Hey, if you do not sell, he'll bribe the President to make all casino's in Las Vegas illegal and to shut them down..
In reality, Hughes was weak and sick.. Maheu had him keep out of sight while he did all the negotiations.. and you know the rest of the story...
In order for a sting to work.. Maheu would have needed an vehicle that had value and power. As well as people of certain backgrounds and reputations.. So it isn't unreasonable to believe, that Maheu chose CMKX to be that vehicle.. IMO
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 23, 2008 6:30:07 GMT -5
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Spoke with the same source again today..
« Thread Started Yesterday at 10:41pm »
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I wanted to clarify better in what context the optimism relayed previously was derived. This individual does not want to be taken out of context or embellished, precisely why I consider this person credible.
I believe this person is speaking from their own individual shareholder perspective as opposed to a professional standpoint, but is no doubt knowledgable in their own right. This is IMO a very important distinction.
While there is optimism, I don't believe this person knows or has been told of any amounts or exact timelines.
So perhaps I was a bit too exuberant? If so I apologize.
I myself remain optimistic that everything happening is for our ultimate benefit.
I still say STING even before CMKX took over the public shell from Cybermark. Many aspects of the DD process point to this.
Cheers.
Oaks (aimho)
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Re: Spoke with the same source again today..
« Reply #12 Today at 8:57am »
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I had previously indicated this source has status as a professional in the type of work this person performs. This person is connected to CMKX corporate activity. However, I felt there needed to be a distinction between this person's professional involvement vs this person also being a significant CMKX shareholder.
IMO, this person's comments are more from a personal perspective vs professional.
This person does not wish embellishment. This person remains very optimistic for CMKX shareholders and feels we are not far away from seeing resolution to our wait. But again, there has been no extended knowledge provided as to any amounts or exact timelines.
Oaks (aimho)
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Re: Spoke with the same source again today..
« Reply #40 Today at 5:53pm »
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I can only tell it as I see it because when I tell it...it can only be my own personal opinion.
I believe bona fide shareholder interests were protected long ago.
I believe we will be compensated.
I don't worry anymore about the when and how much.
Oaks (aimho)
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 24, 2008 6:23:32 GMT -5
oaks
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Re: The question of how big the WIN could be...
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Well if nothing else I can sure generate discussion...LOL
I just felt it important to clarify and to a degree detract a bit from my recent high optimism. I simply have no desire to mislead anyone if I can help it.
Like I said, I remain firm in my belief that CMKX is a sting that started long ago and I continue to believe shareholders will come out on top.
And YES, I truly wish I could come to this forum and state I know how much we are getting and when it will happen.
Oaks (aimho)
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 24, 2008 6:25:03 GMT -5
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The source still thinks something is going to happen fairly soon. But the source IMO has no absolute definitive dates nor amounts or that is my take at least.
Some feel differently but it is the same when as yet..nothing has happened in an official manner to confirm and verify.
As for shareholder pain and suffering....I agree completely it seems very unjustified if behind the scenes things are settled but for some reason they won't pull the trigger.
Oaks (aimho)
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 24, 2008 6:25:27 GMT -5
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Re: The question of how big the WIN could be...
« Reply #69 Today at 7:42pm »
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I don't really look for an audience per say. I am just another shareholder looking for the same answers.
BTW...the source said: does not know amounts and does not know timelines, but is optimistic something could happen fairly soon.
Oaks (aimho)
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Post by misisipiflyer on Jul 24, 2008 6:25:56 GMT -5
oaks DIAMOND JEDI Re: Derivative Crisis.... « Reply #10 Today at 7:48pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another very good article on the subject: www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/03/23/ccfed123.xml"When the Federal Reserve stepped in to save Bear Stearns, most people had no idea what was at stake, writes Ambrose Evans-Pritchard. We may never know for sure whether the Federal Reserve's rescue of Bear Stearns averted a seizure of the $516 trillion derivatives system, the ultimate Chernobyl for global finance." ----------------------------------------------- Oaks |
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