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Posted by: bluediamonds
In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 73493 Date: 8/10/2004 7:40:43 PM
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Dr.D: Could CMKX Be Worth 2 Trillion (or more) One Day?
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:27 pm
Brad
Bulk Sampler
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 273
Location: Austin, Texas
by DrDiamond
Just a thought while we wait...
« Thread started on: Today at 3:23pm »
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Just a thought while we wait. We have some hard evidence that can help us understand some of the possibilities and impossibilities with CMKX and it shares.
Many have been thinking that our high daily volume is due to the insiders selling off their shares and that this is crippling the PPS. If any selling is taking place by the insiders anywhere it is more than likely naked short shares that are beeing traded because the PR of Feb 2003 tells us that all insider shares are restricted shares with a 2 year restriction placed upon them.
The restrictions on those shares will not expire, if my calculations are correct based upon the reorganization of CMKI, until Jan 2005. This could also be why Urban’s 40 billion he kicked in were restricted and remained restricted as they were given to Nevada Minerals.
Usually a company follows a policy of issuing shares to insiders and once that policy is set it rarely changes. I mention this becaue it seems that Urbans way of doing business early on with shares also carried with it a restriction on those shares and it seems to be a 2 year restriction and not a 1 year. This could very well mean that none of those shares entering the market place are from our legitimate insiders O/S as restrictions would still be in place on these, but rather are illegal naked short shares flooding the market place.
www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_Feb_24/ai_98002954
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 24, 2003
…Shares: all insiders have restricted stock. Shares for the Canadian Claims are restricted. Shares for the Survey and Drilling Fund are restricted. All share positions were disclosed on the 14c filed recently, and prior to that the audited financial statements. Al restricted shares are for 2 years pursuant to Rule 144.
I found this very interesting that in Feb 24, 2003 we have a PR from CMKX stating that:
1. ALL INSIDERS HAVE RESTRICTED STOCK.
2. Shares for all Canadian Claims are restricted shares
3. Shares for the drilling and Survey fund are restricted
4. All restricted shares are for 2 years – Meaning there was a 2 year restriction placed on
all restricted shares.
Also many have wondered why we think that CMKX has a naked short problem. Here are two PR’s released nearly18 months ago indicating that they had a naked short position way back then on the stock. One of them calls it a “professional trading positions” to be eradicated and the other one calls it an “aggressive shorting of the stock”. These are two very clear indicators on how long this shorting has been going on and I would say the NSS position is quite high, possibly a trillion or more due to the high volume even with the dividends coming. Compared to the volume percentages of other companies CMKX has a very high NSS position more than likely 2 to 3 times our entire O/S.
www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_Feb_7/ai_97318609
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 6, 2003
The Company believes that its current stock price reflects aggressive shorting of its stock. The Company will be able to fund its drilling program from its current shareholder base.
www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_Feb_24/ai_98002954
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 24, 2003
…There is no guarantee, however, that this proposed transaction will be consummated, although it is anticipated and welcomed by the Board to identify actual shareholders of the corporation and also to eradicate any professional trading positions that may exist at this time in the Company's stock.
…Shares: all insiders have restricted stock. Shares for the Canadian Claims are restricted. Shares for the Survey and Drilling Fund are restricted. All share positions were disclosed on the 14c filed recently, and prior to that the audited financial statements. Al restricted shares are for 2 years pursuant to Rule 144.
Just something else to weigh into your thinking of CMKX and maybe help discredit some of the bashers accusations against our leader and team members in the company. We have good things in store for us and we can only see a piece of this pie right now. I believe Urban and D. Roger Glenn are closing in on the big picture and we will have a clearer understanding in the very near future. Once the NSS position is out of the way there is clear sailing as far as I can see.
Our Saskatchewan adventure group comprised of Urban, Roger, and all of our JV partners I believe will yield some of the true value of CMKX and give birth to future expectations and events that will continue to unfold over the next few years. I believe everything is going according to plan and these oreos that are being targeted for CMKX are measuring a diametrical size and estimated volume that are humongous compared to some of the other pipes in the area.
We have a great infratructure in the area and the est revenue generated by one oreo with a diameter of 2 miles as we have seen can be in excess of $400 to $600 billion dollars gross. The est cost for removing the minerals is $10.50 per ton, but this is without any kind of infrastructure calculated in. We know we have a very good infrastructure in place around some of these cookies, such as the one we are working on this week so the cost per ton would be reduced by at least 25% in my estimations. The est cost of recovering these minerals would be $10.5 billion per 1 billion tons of kimberlite. And if you calculate a 25% reduction for infrastructure in place then the cost would drop to $7.875 billion per 1 billion tons of kimberlite.
We could be looking at 16 billion tons of kimberlite in an Oreo Pipe with a 2 mile diameter and the cost could be calculated as being
$168 billion dollars = $10.5 per ton X 16 billion tons
$126 billion dollars = $7.875 (with infrastructure in place) per ton X 16 billion tons
$22.625 billion dollars est revenue for ½ carat per ton of kimberlite recovered per each 1 billion tons of kimberlite recovered with an average carat price being $100 where the higher quality diamonds are est to be near $200 per carat or more. The size of the diamonds also moves the value of each up exponentially and usually the value increases 4 times per carat size.
This means a 1 carat diamond in the rough could be worth $100 - $200
But a 2 carat diamond in the rough could be worth upwards of $400 - $800
And a 3 carat diamond in the rough could be worth upwards of $1600 - $3200.
Etc… This is very much within the bounds of expectation for the Fort a la Corne area.
So the values could become multiplied many times over depending on the size of the
diamonds.
We are talking 16 billion tons of kimberlite in an Oreo of this size so we have to multiply the est 1 billion tons value of $22.625 billion dollars by 16.
$22.625 X 16 = $362 billion dollars (Plus any multiples because of diamond sizes)
subtract the recovery cost based on the $10.50 per ton removal and we see
$362 billion - $168 billion = $194 billion profit after costs.
This is not counting any other minerals in the pipe that can be processed and income generated on them are just an additional bonus to the profit after costs.
If we see this minimum calculation of $194 billion profit potential from 1 OREO pipe and our oreo pipes have been estimated at 100 with hundreds of other anomalies capable of producing fractionally below this Oreo then we are in great shape.
$194 billion X 10 Oreos = $1.94 Trillion dollars profit after cost
If we use the 25% infrastructure cost reduction percenatge we get:
$362 billion dollars - $126 billion dollars = $236 billion dollars and 10 Oreo pipes would bring $2.36 Trillion dollars.
Take the Net profit from 1 Oreo pipe of $194 billion dollars and break that down by a 500 billion possible O/S or A/S and you get a potential 38.8 cent cash dividend per share with hundreds more witing in the wings plus other minerals that we know are present and capable of generating additional income into any potential cash dividend that may be coming from these Oreo’s. Plus this will add true value to the company and the shares and our PPS would go out of sight in my opinion.
This isn’t hype or a nonsensical guess at what could be for us some where in the sweet bye and bye. Our boys are standing on the site and the drill rig is throwing out some RPM’s and should be boring away as I write this. I eagerly wait and aniticpate a successful core sample as we are all aware of the TDEM capabilities and I believe Roger, Urban and the team are very confident and expectations are high. News should come soon in my calculations.
These are just my opinions and I ask that you treat them as such.
Success is ours.
Dr.D
www.cmkx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1658
Dr.D (#2): CMKX's $1.94 Trillion dollars profit after cost!!!
Re: Some thoughts while we wait... by Dr Diamond
« Reply #5 on: Today at 3:34pm »
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I adjusted this to fit the formula which many others helped in assembling the calculations on. Thanks to all.
I will add it here fo rnow to help clarify my thoughts on this thread.
cmkx.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1091780389
(try cmkx.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=greatposts&action=display&num=1091913143 if the URL above does not work)
I’m not sure about who threw this size for our oreo cookie into being, but from the calculations I have heard they are pretty close. Approx 2 miles X 1.75 miles in diameter for our target pipe we are moving to. Just to bring things into a little light I can throw a little statistical information in here to hopefully brighten up your day. For calculations sake I figured the data on a 2 mile diameter instead of on the medium of 1.875.
In the Saskatchewan pipes, single bodies of kimberlite have been found to exceed 1/2 mile in diameter. A 1/2 mile in diameter pipe will contain an estimated 1 billion tons of kimberlite. Thats right 1 billion tons for a 1/2 mile diameter pipe. Plus if the diamonds are found in quantities of only 0.5 carat/ton of kimberlite, this would amount to a total reserve of 100 tons of diamond! Please note that I said only ½ carat per ton of kimberlite. Any single diamond could far exceed that per ton. But for the sake of being conservative and not being seen as being over zealous in our statistics we will go with only ½ carat per ton.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to do some of these calculations, but I think they are fun and add more solidity to my position in CMKX daily. The reports are that some of these oreo cookies of ours are say 2 miles in diameter then obviously we are looking at 4 times that amount of the statistics found for the ½ mile diameter pipe.
If ½ mile diameter pipe had 1 billion tons of kimberlite and 100 tons of diamonds then we can reasonably calculate from there.
This would mean a 2 mile diameter pipe would reasonably have 16 billion tons of kimberlite with potentially 1600 tons of diamonds with each ruff carat worth in the neighborhood of $100 per ct. (The $100 per carat will differ depending on the size and luster, so $100 was a medium)
A carat is the unit of weight for diamonds and other gems. The metric carat of .200 grams, or 200 milligrams was adopted in the United States in 1913 and now standardized in the principle countries of the world.
This means it takes 5 carats to make a gram.
And there are 1,000,000 grams in a Metric Ton (2,204 pounds) or
5 million carats in 2,204 pounds.
2000 pounds = 1 ton
1600 ton = 3,200,000 pounds
3,200,000 pounds divided by 2,204 pounds (1 metric ton) = 1451.9056 metric tons
1451.9056 metric tons X 5 million carats = 7,259,528,000 carats
7,259,528,000 carats X $100 = $725,952,800,000 dollars
Seeing we are dealing in .5 carats per ton we now need to divide this by one half to get the true calculations.
$362.9764 billion dollars
This will give a little idea of some of the incredible intrinsic value and potentially PPS shattering ability that just ONE of these potential HUNDREDS of targets can have.
This is nice solid value that can put CMKX over the top and I hope our team in Saskatchewan brings this baby in soon. Over the top to me means we could begin legitimately seeing a dollar range per share with an oreo like this even if we had a 500 billion O/S.
This is just my opinion and I ask that you treat it as such. We may be joint in any of these oreos and if we are then all costs and profits will be divided up with other JV partners.
Dr.D
cmkxdiamonds.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=rumors&action=display&num=1092080099
investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.asp?msg=3764992
In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 73493 Date: 8/10/2004 7:40:43 PM
Post #
Dr.D: Could CMKX Be Worth 2 Trillion (or more) One Day?
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:27 pm
Brad
Bulk Sampler
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 273
Location: Austin, Texas
by DrDiamond
Just a thought while we wait...
« Thread started on: Today at 3:23pm »
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just a thought while we wait. We have some hard evidence that can help us understand some of the possibilities and impossibilities with CMKX and it shares.
Many have been thinking that our high daily volume is due to the insiders selling off their shares and that this is crippling the PPS. If any selling is taking place by the insiders anywhere it is more than likely naked short shares that are beeing traded because the PR of Feb 2003 tells us that all insider shares are restricted shares with a 2 year restriction placed upon them.
The restrictions on those shares will not expire, if my calculations are correct based upon the reorganization of CMKI, until Jan 2005. This could also be why Urban’s 40 billion he kicked in were restricted and remained restricted as they were given to Nevada Minerals.
Usually a company follows a policy of issuing shares to insiders and once that policy is set it rarely changes. I mention this becaue it seems that Urbans way of doing business early on with shares also carried with it a restriction on those shares and it seems to be a 2 year restriction and not a 1 year. This could very well mean that none of those shares entering the market place are from our legitimate insiders O/S as restrictions would still be in place on these, but rather are illegal naked short shares flooding the market place.
www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_Feb_24/ai_98002954
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 24, 2003
…Shares: all insiders have restricted stock. Shares for the Canadian Claims are restricted. Shares for the Survey and Drilling Fund are restricted. All share positions were disclosed on the 14c filed recently, and prior to that the audited financial statements. Al restricted shares are for 2 years pursuant to Rule 144.
I found this very interesting that in Feb 24, 2003 we have a PR from CMKX stating that:
1. ALL INSIDERS HAVE RESTRICTED STOCK.
2. Shares for all Canadian Claims are restricted shares
3. Shares for the drilling and Survey fund are restricted
4. All restricted shares are for 2 years – Meaning there was a 2 year restriction placed on
all restricted shares.
Also many have wondered why we think that CMKX has a naked short problem. Here are two PR’s released nearly18 months ago indicating that they had a naked short position way back then on the stock. One of them calls it a “professional trading positions” to be eradicated and the other one calls it an “aggressive shorting of the stock”. These are two very clear indicators on how long this shorting has been going on and I would say the NSS position is quite high, possibly a trillion or more due to the high volume even with the dividends coming. Compared to the volume percentages of other companies CMKX has a very high NSS position more than likely 2 to 3 times our entire O/S.
www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_Feb_7/ai_97318609
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 6, 2003
The Company believes that its current stock price reflects aggressive shorting of its stock. The Company will be able to fund its drilling program from its current shareholder base.
www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_Feb_24/ai_98002954
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 24, 2003
…There is no guarantee, however, that this proposed transaction will be consummated, although it is anticipated and welcomed by the Board to identify actual shareholders of the corporation and also to eradicate any professional trading positions that may exist at this time in the Company's stock.
…Shares: all insiders have restricted stock. Shares for the Canadian Claims are restricted. Shares for the Survey and Drilling Fund are restricted. All share positions were disclosed on the 14c filed recently, and prior to that the audited financial statements. Al restricted shares are for 2 years pursuant to Rule 144.
Just something else to weigh into your thinking of CMKX and maybe help discredit some of the bashers accusations against our leader and team members in the company. We have good things in store for us and we can only see a piece of this pie right now. I believe Urban and D. Roger Glenn are closing in on the big picture and we will have a clearer understanding in the very near future. Once the NSS position is out of the way there is clear sailing as far as I can see.
Our Saskatchewan adventure group comprised of Urban, Roger, and all of our JV partners I believe will yield some of the true value of CMKX and give birth to future expectations and events that will continue to unfold over the next few years. I believe everything is going according to plan and these oreos that are being targeted for CMKX are measuring a diametrical size and estimated volume that are humongous compared to some of the other pipes in the area.
We have a great infratructure in the area and the est revenue generated by one oreo with a diameter of 2 miles as we have seen can be in excess of $400 to $600 billion dollars gross. The est cost for removing the minerals is $10.50 per ton, but this is without any kind of infrastructure calculated in. We know we have a very good infrastructure in place around some of these cookies, such as the one we are working on this week so the cost per ton would be reduced by at least 25% in my estimations. The est cost of recovering these minerals would be $10.5 billion per 1 billion tons of kimberlite. And if you calculate a 25% reduction for infrastructure in place then the cost would drop to $7.875 billion per 1 billion tons of kimberlite.
We could be looking at 16 billion tons of kimberlite in an Oreo Pipe with a 2 mile diameter and the cost could be calculated as being
$168 billion dollars = $10.5 per ton X 16 billion tons
$126 billion dollars = $7.875 (with infrastructure in place) per ton X 16 billion tons
$22.625 billion dollars est revenue for ½ carat per ton of kimberlite recovered per each 1 billion tons of kimberlite recovered with an average carat price being $100 where the higher quality diamonds are est to be near $200 per carat or more. The size of the diamonds also moves the value of each up exponentially and usually the value increases 4 times per carat size.
This means a 1 carat diamond in the rough could be worth $100 - $200
But a 2 carat diamond in the rough could be worth upwards of $400 - $800
And a 3 carat diamond in the rough could be worth upwards of $1600 - $3200.
Etc… This is very much within the bounds of expectation for the Fort a la Corne area.
So the values could become multiplied many times over depending on the size of the
diamonds.
We are talking 16 billion tons of kimberlite in an Oreo of this size so we have to multiply the est 1 billion tons value of $22.625 billion dollars by 16.
$22.625 X 16 = $362 billion dollars (Plus any multiples because of diamond sizes)
subtract the recovery cost based on the $10.50 per ton removal and we see
$362 billion - $168 billion = $194 billion profit after costs.
This is not counting any other minerals in the pipe that can be processed and income generated on them are just an additional bonus to the profit after costs.
If we see this minimum calculation of $194 billion profit potential from 1 OREO pipe and our oreo pipes have been estimated at 100 with hundreds of other anomalies capable of producing fractionally below this Oreo then we are in great shape.
$194 billion X 10 Oreos = $1.94 Trillion dollars profit after cost
If we use the 25% infrastructure cost reduction percenatge we get:
$362 billion dollars - $126 billion dollars = $236 billion dollars and 10 Oreo pipes would bring $2.36 Trillion dollars.
Take the Net profit from 1 Oreo pipe of $194 billion dollars and break that down by a 500 billion possible O/S or A/S and you get a potential 38.8 cent cash dividend per share with hundreds more witing in the wings plus other minerals that we know are present and capable of generating additional income into any potential cash dividend that may be coming from these Oreo’s. Plus this will add true value to the company and the shares and our PPS would go out of sight in my opinion.
This isn’t hype or a nonsensical guess at what could be for us some where in the sweet bye and bye. Our boys are standing on the site and the drill rig is throwing out some RPM’s and should be boring away as I write this. I eagerly wait and aniticpate a successful core sample as we are all aware of the TDEM capabilities and I believe Roger, Urban and the team are very confident and expectations are high. News should come soon in my calculations.
These are just my opinions and I ask that you treat them as such.
Success is ours.
Dr.D
www.cmkx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1658
Dr.D (#2): CMKX's $1.94 Trillion dollars profit after cost!!!
Re: Some thoughts while we wait... by Dr Diamond
« Reply #5 on: Today at 3:34pm »
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I adjusted this to fit the formula which many others helped in assembling the calculations on. Thanks to all.
I will add it here fo rnow to help clarify my thoughts on this thread.
cmkx.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1091780389
(try cmkx.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=greatposts&action=display&num=1091913143 if the URL above does not work)
I’m not sure about who threw this size for our oreo cookie into being, but from the calculations I have heard they are pretty close. Approx 2 miles X 1.75 miles in diameter for our target pipe we are moving to. Just to bring things into a little light I can throw a little statistical information in here to hopefully brighten up your day. For calculations sake I figured the data on a 2 mile diameter instead of on the medium of 1.875.
In the Saskatchewan pipes, single bodies of kimberlite have been found to exceed 1/2 mile in diameter. A 1/2 mile in diameter pipe will contain an estimated 1 billion tons of kimberlite. Thats right 1 billion tons for a 1/2 mile diameter pipe. Plus if the diamonds are found in quantities of only 0.5 carat/ton of kimberlite, this would amount to a total reserve of 100 tons of diamond! Please note that I said only ½ carat per ton of kimberlite. Any single diamond could far exceed that per ton. But for the sake of being conservative and not being seen as being over zealous in our statistics we will go with only ½ carat per ton.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to do some of these calculations, but I think they are fun and add more solidity to my position in CMKX daily. The reports are that some of these oreo cookies of ours are say 2 miles in diameter then obviously we are looking at 4 times that amount of the statistics found for the ½ mile diameter pipe.
If ½ mile diameter pipe had 1 billion tons of kimberlite and 100 tons of diamonds then we can reasonably calculate from there.
This would mean a 2 mile diameter pipe would reasonably have 16 billion tons of kimberlite with potentially 1600 tons of diamonds with each ruff carat worth in the neighborhood of $100 per ct. (The $100 per carat will differ depending on the size and luster, so $100 was a medium)
A carat is the unit of weight for diamonds and other gems. The metric carat of .200 grams, or 200 milligrams was adopted in the United States in 1913 and now standardized in the principle countries of the world.
This means it takes 5 carats to make a gram.
And there are 1,000,000 grams in a Metric Ton (2,204 pounds) or
5 million carats in 2,204 pounds.
2000 pounds = 1 ton
1600 ton = 3,200,000 pounds
3,200,000 pounds divided by 2,204 pounds (1 metric ton) = 1451.9056 metric tons
1451.9056 metric tons X 5 million carats = 7,259,528,000 carats
7,259,528,000 carats X $100 = $725,952,800,000 dollars
Seeing we are dealing in .5 carats per ton we now need to divide this by one half to get the true calculations.
$362.9764 billion dollars
This will give a little idea of some of the incredible intrinsic value and potentially PPS shattering ability that just ONE of these potential HUNDREDS of targets can have.
This is nice solid value that can put CMKX over the top and I hope our team in Saskatchewan brings this baby in soon. Over the top to me means we could begin legitimately seeing a dollar range per share with an oreo like this even if we had a 500 billion O/S.
This is just my opinion and I ask that you treat it as such. We may be joint in any of these oreos and if we are then all costs and profits will be divided up with other JV partners.
Dr.D
cmkxdiamonds.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=rumors&action=display&num=1092080099
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