Dinar - * Med & Nighthk11 chats: Dinar Speculator 1/31/11
January 31, 2011 08:53 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info) · Comments Off
MEDs CHAT 01-31-2011 15:34 PM est
Med says to (15:34:53):
HI MY FELLOW HOSERS
OIF says to (15:35:03):
The oil reserve found under the Dakotas and parts of Wyoming and Montana have more Oil than the ME combine, not to mention the oil in Alaska, off the Gulf, and the oil shale in Colorado
Med says to (15:35:07):
GREETINGS FROM THE GREAT WHITE NORTH
OIF THE OIL FOUND IN THE DAKOTA’S WAS FOUND YEARS AGO
THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH IT
IT IS SUPER EXPENSIVE TO SEPARATE
THAT IS WHY IT WAS NEVER TOUCHED
IT IS NOT JUST OIL AS WE KNOW IT
IT IS IN SHALE
AND SAND
WHICH THE NUMBERS SOUND GREAT
BUT IF WE HAD TO PROCESS IT
starlord6d6d says to (15:36:48):
they would have to use the water push method, or something like that to force the oil out
Med says to (15:36:49):
WE COULDN’T AFFORD IT AT THE PUMP
OIF says to (15:36:49):
Aren’t they refining the oil sand in Canada
Dons says to (15:36:54):
we need to quit relying on the ME and develop new processes
alphonse43 says to (15:37:04):
Alaska has plenty of oil
Med says to (15:37:07):
DONS WE HAVE NEW PROCESSES
BUT THEY FOR THE AVG PERSON IS NOT CHEAP
TO USE
Bdstory says to (15:37:22):
Med your going to see more and more oil coming from shale in the next couple years. I work for a company that puts together deals for firms that are about to go after the shale. Money is starting to pour into those project.
Med says to (15:37:33):
LOOK HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS FOR SOLAR
AND TO PUT UP A WINDMILL
HOW MANY OF US CAN JUST GO BUY ONE
YES I WANT TO HAVE A YOUNG RAQUEL WELCH IN THE NEXT ROOM TOO
BUT IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN
LOL
B Man says to (15:39:18):
Med you left Missouiri just in time…we aregetting ready to get dumped on!!
OIF says to (15:39:19):
Med do you think that Egypt will get to the point to where thay will try to shut down the Sueze Canal
Med says to (15:39:29):
REALLY JAMIE SAID
IT WAS 60 THERE
WHEN HE CALLED ME
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT EGYPT WILL BE ALLOWED TO SHUT DOWN THE CANEL
MOBAREK ALREADY MADE ONE ERROR
BY BREAKING THE 67 WAR TREATY
WITH ISRAEL
OIF says to (15:41:13):
I hope they wont be able to, their are talks that if that happens then Gas prices could double from what they are right now
Med says to (15:41:14):
AND LETTING EGYPTIAN FORCES INTO THE SINAI
YES OIF
YOU KNOW HOW IT IS THOUGH
ANYTIME SOMETHING HAPPENS
ALL THE WORRY WARTS START CRYING
OH THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN
OR THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN
NOT BLAMING YOU
JUST I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THAT CRAP
AND THE CONSPIRACY THIS OR THAT
I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE SET TO INVADE IRAQ THE FIRST TIME
ALL THOSE MILITARY EXPERTS
FROM ALL THOSE INSTITUTES
B Man says to (15:43:41):
you’re right Med…they are already talking about the wheat prices because of Egypt!
Med says to (15:43:43):
SAID THE U.S. WOULD HAVE MIN 50K CASUALTIES
HOW MANY
OH EXCUSE ME TO THE MORONS WHO SAID WE WOULD TAKE AN ASS KICKING
WE HAD 200 PLUS
THOSE IDIOTS SHOULD BE NOW WORKING AT MCDONALDS
I SAID TWO THINGS
WHEN WE WENT TO IRAQ
AND I HAVE BEEN 100% RIGHT ON IT
WE WOULD KICK THEIR ASS
AND THEN GET STUCK ON CORNERS POLICING THE COUNTRY
AND BE SITTING DUCKS
SOLDIERS ARE NOT POLICEMEN
AND I WAS RIGHT ON BOTH
Newlife says to (15:46:06):
They have all the prices of everything going up, just gives the oil co.’s excuses to raise them
Med says to (15:46:23):
THEY ALWAYS HAVE SOME EXCUSE
ONE THING I AM CONFUSED ABOUT
THEY SAID IN THE NEWS WE GET WHAT
15% OF OUR OIL FROM FOREIGN COMPANIES
SO WHAT IS THE BIG FRIGGN DEAL
OIF says to (15:47:17):
Yep policemen protect and keep things from getting destroyed and soldiers do the destroying lol
Med says to (15:47:17):
IF THE ME IS KILLING THEMSELVES
YES DONS
WE GET ALLOT FROM VENEZUELA
AND THE GULF AND ALASKA
MOST OF OUR OIL DOES NOT EVEN COME FROM THE ME
Dons says to (15:47:59):
good to know ty
B Man says to (15:48:01):
Well they can raise them all they want to but if we don’t have the money to purchase it really won’t matter!
Med says to (15:48:03):
YW
CORRECT BMAN
ALL I WILL DO IS ADAPT
OVERCOME
AND IMPROVISE
THAT IS ALL WE CAN DO
LOL
GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE
EVERYTHING I LIKE TO DO IS RIGHT HERE
I DON’T NEED TO GO ANYWHERE
alphonse43 says to (15:49:37):
my wife and kids will have to eat alot less
Med says to (15:49:52):
THAT WAS COLD
OIF says to (15:51:39):
Can’t feed my wife less she is pregnant with twins
elkhunter55 says to (15:52:15):
that is great OIF!! congrats
Med says to (15:52:36):
CONGRATS OIF
THAT IS GREAT
I AM VERY HAPPY FOR YOU
I GUESS
LOL
BETTER YOU THAN ME
5 WAS ENOUGH
B Man says to (15:56:28):
Med do you think that everything that is going on with Egypt that it will pull some attention away from Iraq with the US?
Med says to (15:56:44):
SOMEWHAT BMAN
BUT NOT TOO MUCH
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT EGYPT BREAKING THE 67 TREATY
THAT IS NOT GOOD
THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO ENTER THE SINAI
AND THEY DID
THEY SHOULD HAVE LEARNED THE LAST TIME THEY DID
THEY HAD A TRAIL OF DEAD AND WRECKAGE
ALL ACROSS IT
AND WHAT JUSTIFIES THEM TO DO SO
NOTHING
THEY HAVE THE PROBLEMS IN EGYPT
NOT THE SINAI
I AM HAPPY TO SEE THE UNREST THOUGH
B Man says to (15:59:20):
I would almost think it would cause the US to pressure Iraq more since the RV is so needed for bothj of our countries! Espescialy if it effects the economy more!
Med says to (15:59:22):
I DO THINK IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT
ONE THING THOUGH BMAN
ON OUR COUNTRY AND THE RV
Dinar Mark says to (15:59:51):
They are going to have problems in Iraq if they don’t get their act together
Med says to (15:59:58):
I AM NOT SO SURE THAT IT IS NOT JUST THE INVESTOR WHO IS THE ONE WHO REALIZES THE IMPACT
THEY ARE
IT IS INEVITABLE
TWO ISSUES WE NEED TO WATCH
WHAT IS ACTUALLY SAID AND DONE TOMORROW
AT PARLIAMENT
AND DO ALLAWI AND MALIKI
MEET
MALIKI STATED THAT IF THE BLOCS CAN’T GET IN AGREEMENT
THEN HE WILL NOMINATE HIMSELF THE CANDIDATES
WELL HE CAN
BUT
PARLIAMENT STILL HAS TO APPROVE THEM
AND THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM
THE KURDS AND LIST CONTROL PARLIAMENT
busman says to (16:02:27):
Hillary, is concerned or she would not have called all the ambas. to DC
jonmac says to (16:02:39):
Malikis statements about the “binding” court ruling concerning independent organizattions being under control of the executive branch sounds pretty chilling.
B Man says to (16:02:44):
Exactly right Med…that should tell us where we stand and if things progress sooner or later…either way all we can do is wait.
Med says to (16:02:49):
ONE THING JONMAC
THEY ARE BINDIN TO A POINT
PARLIAMENT CAN REVERSE IT
BY ADOPTING LEGISLATION
NOW SO FAR THEY HAVE ONLY PASSED ONE THING
THAT IS THE MONEY TO COVER THEIR FIRST VACATION
WHICH IS PATHETIC
I AM GOING TO BE BLUNT HERE OK
THIS SITUATION IN IRAQ IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE RIGHT
NOT FOR A LONG TERM
ALL WE CAN DO
AND I TOLD SOME INVESTORS ON THE PHONE THIS TODAY
IS WE BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO JUST BE THERE AT THAT ONE MOMENT
THAT WE CAN ESCAPE THIS
WITH OUR MONEY
IT WILL BE ONLY A WINDOW
AND WE WILL ALL HAVE TO USE IT
ASAP
AND THEN SAY TY
AND KISS MY ASS
SORRY FOR THE FRENCH
cookmarian says to (16:05:58):
Just so long as we get that moment
Med says to (16:05:59):
BUT THAT IS REALLY HOW IT IS GANG
ALL WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS THAT ONE WINDOW
CUZ THESE PEOPLE
ARE COMPLETE MORONS
AND WILL DESTROY ALL THEY HAVE
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
THIS WILL END
AND PEAK FOR A MOMENT OF SUCCESS
THEN THEY WILL SCREW IT UP
BUT THAT IS TOO BAD FOR THEM
NOT US
OIF says to (16:07:16):
Med when you say we will have to use the window ASAP are you saying, like the day, week, or month it is announced?
Med says to (16:07:29):
USE IT AS SOON AS IT COMES OUT
ASAP
AND BE DONE
HONESTLY GANG
HAS ANYTHING THEY HAVE DONE
SHOWN US THAT THEY CAN SUSTAIN ANY SUCCESS
FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME
SO TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS
keola71 says to (16:08:20):
it would at this point be foolish to stay in any longer than you have to
Med says to (16:08:26):
AGREE
THEY WILL RV THIS YEAR
AND AS SOON AS THEY DO
GET THE DINAR
AND IN THE CAR
RACE TO THE BANK
AND DUMP IT
B Man says to (16:09:13):
Once this hits ‘m outta here!
Dinar Mark says to (16:09:16):
“Give me two steps to the door and you won’t see me again”
TheOneArmedMan says to (16:09:16):
Im in and out. Just hope no one is in my way at the bank… Im a big boy and i will take them out…
Med says to (16:09:36):
CUZ THEY WILL SELF DESTRUCT AS THIS COUNTRY HAS IN ALL IT’S HISTORY
cwwilson says to (16:09:56):
and if anyone suggests another currency investment, please see your local shrink lol
OIF says to (16:10:01):
As soon as I hear its done, Cash In I will alert my boss to a sudden family emergency, only thing they won’t know is that that emergency will be at the bank
Med says to (16:10:18):
ALL I CAN SAY
IS USUALLY I AM A GENTLEMAN
BUT IF YOU ARE IN MY WAY
BEWARE
CUZ ME AND MY YOOPER ATV ARE COMING THROUGH
JARV says to (16:11:19):
Did you read the article about Maliki and his meeting with the independent bodies
Med says to (16:11:27):
NO I DID NOT JARV
Med says to (16:11:48):
OH I HAVE MOUNTED WEAPONS PLACEMENTS ON IT
jonmac says to (16:11:56):
so this is nothing new, Med. Just the recognition from history and current events that we are dealing with a country that is mired in failure.
Med says to (16:11:56):
YES JONMAC
EXACTLY
cwwilson says to (16:12:21):
im just not going to shower, they will part like the red sea when i come in
Med says to (16:12:26):
THIS IS LIKE HEREDITARY IN IRAQ
IT IS IN THEIR GENETICS
LIKE RED/GREEN SAID
keola71 says to (16:12:50):
no national pride still tribe mentality
Med says to (16:12:55):
IF IT AINT BROKE
busman says to (16:13:01):
can’t fix stupid!!!!
Med says to (16:13:01):
YOU AREN’T TRYING HARD ENOUGH
jonmac says to (16:13:19):
centuries of conflict like the Hatfields and the McCoys
Med says to (16:13:25):
YES JONMAC
cwwilson says to (16:13:27):
in the beginning i wanted the best for iraq, now i just want a window
Med says to (16:13:33):
ME TOO CW
JARV says to (16:13:38):
I am confused about the ruling from the Federal Government on the independent bodies they say that the law can not be reverserd or changed or change the people. Parliment is sayng the law is in constitutional how will this get figured out. Who’s job is it?
Med says to (16:13:51):
IT IS PARLIAMENTS
AND YES IT CAN BE REVERSED
Dinar Mark says to (16:13:57):
That is probably why they do best under a dictator
tftx says to (16:14:06):
www.dinarspeculator.com/showt…8395#post78395Med says to (16:14:08):
MALIKI SAID IF THEY DO REVFERRSE IT
REVERSE IT
IT WILL DESTROY THE DEMOCRACY
NO IT WON’T
IT IS DEMOCRACY AT WORK
JARV says to (16:14:32):
just the opposite
Med says to (16:14:33):
THAT IS WHAT IT IS
HERE IS ONE EXAMPLE
THE OBAMA HEALTH CARE BILL
IT IS TODAY BEEN DECIDED
THAT IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL
BY 26 FEDERAL COURTS
IS IT GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY
CUZ IT GETS CHANGED
NO
IT IS DEMOCRACY
THE PEOPLE SPEAKING
THAT IS DEMOCRACY
IT IS NOT ONE PERSON
AS MALIKI THINKS
PEOPLE MAKE A DEMOCRACY
THIS MAN HAS NO CLUE WHAT DEMOCRACY IS ABOUT
IF HE WAS IN A ROOM WITH US
HE COULDN’T EXPLAIN TO US
WHAT IT IS
IT IS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS
FREEDOM TO CHALLENGE
THE AUTHORITIES
cwwilson says to (16:17:31):
he called himself the CEO today, guess he forgot about the board members lol
Med says to (16:17:39):
CEO
cwwilson says to (16:17:50):
yep that is what he said
Med says to (16:17:51):
SINCE WHEN WAS ANYTHING RUN BY A CEO A DEMOCRACY
cwwilson says to (16:17:54):
he was the ceo lol
Dinar Mark says to (16:17:57):
What, in your mind, do you see a possible senerio for us to get to our window? and do you think it will go on anothe 9 months like the previous crisis???
Med says to (16:18:07):
NO DM
I DON’T
THEY ARE IN A BIT OF A BIND
AND THE WINDOW HAS TO BE INSIDE OF THE ENDING OF THE UNSC PROTECTION
Dinar Mark says to (16:18:30):
Well least your honest!!! LOL
Med says to (16:18:57):
LEAVING IT WITHOUT THE MONETARY SETTLED
WILL BE A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR IRAQ
THAT IS WHAT LAN IS TELLING ME
ABOUT 14 MONTHS AGO
IRAQ WAS IN THE PERFECT POSITION TO REVALUE
I MEAN PERFECT
THEN SHABIBI GOT GREEDY
AS IN NOT STEALING GREEDY
BUT THAT LETS LET THINGS GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER EVEN
AND IT BACKFIRED
TERRIBLY
NOW THEY AS I SAID MISSED THAT WINDOW
AND IT WAS PERFECT
ALL WERE READY
BUT HE BALKED
NOW ONE HAS TO COME UP
BUT I DOUBT IT WILL BE AS GOOD AS THE ONE LAST YEAR
SO HE WILL HAVE TO SETTLE
NOW MOST LIKELY
IT IS GOING TO BE ON A MIN. OF CIRCUMSTANCES
LIKE THE COMPLETION OF THE FORMING
AND MOST LIKELY NOT ALL 9
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT 3
NOW MY ONLY CONCERN WITH CBI BEING UNDER THE GOI
IS ONE THING
THAT THEY DON’T RAID THE FOREIGN CURRENCY ASSETS
THAT IS IT
OTHER THAN THAT
IT ACTUALLY DOESN’T MEAN IT IS BAD
FOR US
WITH THE MOF ACTUALLY BEING IN CHARGE THEN
AND HE FROM THE LIST
AND WE KNOW THAT ALLAWI WANTS THE DINAR TO THE GOLDEN AGE
AN RV COULD ACTUALLY BE FORCED ON SHABIBI
AGAINST HIS JUDGEMENT
SO THERE POSSIBLY IS A SILVER LINING TO THIS
REMEMBER
WE ONLY WANT IT TO BE A FOREIGN EXCHANGE CURRENCY
WE DON’T GIVE A RATS BUTT WHO DOES IT
AFTER THAT
IT IS ALL THEIR PROBLEM
I GOT ENOUGH OF MY OWN
AND SO DO YOU ALL
JARV says to (16:26:03):
With the CBI being connected to The goi and chance of all the reserves being dipped in the WTB said no more loans and I can’t imagine IFM agreeing to rv without a guarantee the Fed reserves are protected
Med says to (16:26:26):
NOW THAT IS A GOOD ANALOGY JARV
JARV says to (16:26:43):
thank you Med
Med says to (16:26:50):
YVW
GANG I AM SORRY
I HAVE TO LEAVE FOR A BIT
BBIAB
OK
Nighthk11 chat 1/31/2011 4:30pm pst
Nighthk11
Hello DS- WildfireI- since you arked I will give you my opinion- First they will move to address the safety of the countries money and assets- This will be done by attention to the SFC’s ruling which is in direct contravention to their const
Second- They will address the meeting between Allawi and Maliki – I believe that since the meet is supposed to be closed door- a deal over power will be made
Third- They will address the three remaining ministries anf fill the vacancies- The remaining are sub-mionistries and not soverign
Shibibi will act to activate the RV- Contrary to some belief’s this will provide a modem of stability outweighing the concern over “Unstable conditions”
with PPP- the people will be able to buy generators and fuel until the power grid is up and running and pay for foodstuffs
The situation in Egypt is very important to Iraq and the region because the Military which is the seat of any dictator has sided with the people- This indicates to me that whoever is running the military sees a chance for change
Mubarak cannot stay in power w/out military support
Now- He has appointed a vice president- In diplomatic circles this is being seen as “Se;ecting a successor” Egypt has never had a vice president since Mubarak took power
However the egyptian street have let it be known that they will Not accept ” his pick and they want to pick their own leaders
Now does anyone here see the correlation between the people of Iraq and Egpyt?
B Man says to (18:19:14):
Kind od like Maliki appointing his son…it’s have acces to the stieings even if you’re not there to control the strings.
Nighthk11: Point in case- It does NOT matter who is at fault in this mess- what matters is The mindset and will of the people” Should the Iraqi security and military forces take the street’s
side- Maliki Allawi and the rest of the bums are done folr
aspen: night do you think if this goes into the streets of Iraq it will open a window of
opportunity for Sadr being backed by the Islamic brotherhoood?
Nighthk11: Sadr is no better than the rest- He is now demanding to take over Security for
Iraq” all this blustering and moves are only making the “Ruling Elite” of this planet look deeper at what they want to do with Iraq
Nighthk11: Now Shibibi is IMO a patriot and intellegene man of honor- I have no doubt that once Maliki and allawi agree on the final 3 ministries- He will activate the RV.
reilly1: But Night doesnt stability play a big part with the world powers ? As far as RV goes inflation, IMF , UN, etc
Nighthk11: Reilly- what do you think is the root cause of concvern for the people aside from jobs?- Jobs mean income- ability to take care of daily needs-
GAU-8: who would invest in a country, with an Ayatolla wanna be like Sadr in charge of
security??, never gonna happen
Nighthk11: There are many opinions and scenarios that can play out- in deciding what is the best method to bring stability- One must consider the reasons for people unrest
alphonse43: food water clothing homes
tmac096: Yes you need to get to the root cause of the problem and fix it. These people don’t want to starve to death. Work equals pay equals food.
Nighthk11: We shall see what the parliment does to handle this and get back on track- Arab leaders will NOT come to Iraq for a summit IMO for two reasons- 1- no security- 2- no gov’t in place-3- the current situation sweeping the ME
Nighthk11: So having identified the reasons for the people discontent- what do you folks think
would be an immed fix to gain time to address the causes in gov’t for this?
cookmarian: Form and RV
Nighthk11: do you believe that if the major concerns of the masses are addressed in a viable and tangible way- that may calm them and allow Parliment more time to address the issues- I would think so- I also believe that the money will be stable
reilly1: give them something to chew on for sure PP via RV, its hard for me to waver from what Med has always said need stable government first then comes the rest
Nighthk11: Should parliment not act to supress the ruling of the SFC- allowing Iraq’s assets to be held up for lawsuits- There will most certainly be leins placed against their monies abroad until those lawsuits can be adjudicated That could tie up all monies abroad until the cases are in open court- That also means the DFI. I see Allawi and Maliki comming to an agreement and the gov’t being completed-
Then we move from there- At some point Maliki will be addressed. He is now trying to “Change” the original text of the Barzani initiative that he agreed to by downplaying Allawi’s powers- so we will see
mas: Night, when you say that tomorrow they WILL address the 3 remaining ministries and FILL the vacancies, what is your level of certainty that this WILL actually occur and is this supported by your sources?
Nighthk11: I look for the SFC to be dismissed- as it was instituted under Bremer- Parliment members have already alluded to this
The meet with Maliki and Allawi should be underway- as I said Parliment will
address the countries money supply first- then gov’t completion’budget- and other issues of power with-in the GOI and it’s players- I said nothing about all this being addressed in 4 days as was implied here
cookmarian: Night do you give credence to the article saying the budget would be looked at toward end of February?
Nighthk11: Now if anyone here thinks that the situation in Iraq is just there – I would suggest you look again- The issues are Regional and of such importance to the US and allies- the SOS- Sec Of State has re-called all US ambassadors for a meeting- Unprecedented move- so is the stability of America’s point democracy in the ME important?? You Decide
cookmarian: A smart move. Remember the hostages kept in Iran?
Nighthk11: I bring information to this site to inform the members- It comes form many
sources and I have both worked with and trust them- Yet although they are closer than I to the pinnacles of power- They are human beings and not always correct in their take
IMO- there are many scenerios that could happen- although it seems that Maliki
has full run- I have been informed that this is NOT the case and yes it is within the scope of possibilities that he can be REMOVED or directed to STEP DOWN. I think he will buy time by coordinating and compromising with Allawi
tudor: I personally thank all of them, they do pretty good. There is no such thing, IMO,
perfect intel please tell your sources thanks night
Nighthk11: That is what I am looking for with this meeting between the two- I speak for
MYSELF- I am at this point only interested in them getting the gov’t formed and Shibibi
activating the RV- All else is in the diplomatic scenes and out of my reach
mercedes: for sure Night I totally agree with you on that statement
Nighthk11: The scenerio to remove him may sound simple- but it will be well planned- Should de-stabilization in Iraq continue to the point where it is percieved that all “Gains” may be lost- A determination will be made with-in the UN- that it is in the interest of the Iraqi people (And the plans of the ruling elite)- that progress would be better served if Maliki were gone. The UNSC will decide as they are still under Chap 7 concerning a “Threat To the stability of the region” UNSC will vote- contact sec gen- and it will go from there. The UN rep Melkert- Am Ambassador and Gen Austin will deliver that msg- This may come later thru a vote in parliment which IMO will be enfortced by the UN
But currently I do NOT think this to be the caes- I believe they are looking “Short
Term” what will allowIraq to forfill their obligations -To the people- on their international
Agreements. What is the quickest way to get things setteled down- MONEY TO THE PEOPLE
cdjsilver51: Night, if CBI remained under the GOI would Shabibi make the decision about the RV or would it be from Maliki
Roadrunner: The federal court should be the first to be removed before they can
make one more corrupted ill decision to the detriment of the Iraqi peoples.
Nighthk11: As I have stated before folks there are many many opinions and things that could happen- But I am just looking at Allawi-Maliki- and the gov’t being formed- then I will see if Shabs will do as I and others think trigger the RV- and I believe he will
Even if the CBI comes under Maliki- Shabs will still be the man- Maliki knows
nothing about finance- His move was IMO twofold- 1- control and consolidation of power- and 2- steal. Now having said that- We know that his cronies in the SFC already said that their decisions are not to be contested- But Shabs was the first to say NO- so even if CBI came under Maliki I think he will still Trigger the RV- For the people-
mailman’s neighbor: Night, IN your opinion, when do you think the govt will form?
Nighthk11: MMN- I am hoping that they come to an agreement at this meet and it will be done by end of this week- That is what they said
Nighthk11: Now I have always said that the RV will be sudden- deliberate- and without warning- I stand by that statement. Summit- I read that they were going to “Postpone” it due to the security situation. It would be a supreme slap in Iraq’s and Maliki’s face if they decided to hold it somewhere else Which is what I think they should do Because Maliki nor the GOI deserve the heads of established Arab gov’ts meeting in their filthy capitol with a hodgepodge gov’t
Busyman: I was hoping that the Summit would put pressure on then to get the gov formed
SallyDS: that, and because there is no (few?) arab leaders that will want to wander too far from home while this turmoil is fermenting in the me
Nighthk11: I will say this to you all- I care about the people of Iraq as I do the people of the world- But I stay grounded by remembering that I “Invested to make money”- I nor you can control the events occurring- we must leave that to the diplomats- at this point I am only interested in “Cashing Out” The situation will either get better or get worse until it is forceably stopped
alphonse43: agree
Nighthk11: Now having said that IMO it has esculated to cover the entire region and does
effect the mindset of the people of Iraq. So since none of us are in control or in a position todo anything effectively to
change what is going on- I must believe that Iraq can do all they want by kicking off golden op’s but they are going nowhere with a tradeable currency
SallyDS: seems to in Kurdistan, at least. there is one group that is trying hard to inflame the entire population! Fortunately, others are trying to shout over his calls
alphonse43: without a tradeable currency
Nighthk11: Unless that currency is internationally recognised and has a value that can be
Sustained
desertnuke: ….and focusing more on economic and industrial growth and rebuilding we would be in a better position…as well as the populous of Iraw and the rest of the world, but they have been bickering with each other for centuries. JMO
SallyDS: I think ALL eyes are on Parliament….I hope they are up to it!
Nighthk11: There is a tremendous amount of diplomatic on the parliment to “Empower Them” thru the UN- That is why Melkert is advocating to “Respect” the SFC dicision and use dialogue to settle the matter
SallyDS: I’ve been reading that inspector general’s report. There are real snipets of hope there,
desertnuke: ty, Parliament is definitely under the proverbial microscope and they are definitely not making the world ” scientists ” very unhappy. Just friggen get on track and get it done. They have to have their craniums inserted so far up their lower G.I. that they cannot not see into the future only “me” and “now”
Nighthk11: What is he saying?- YOU have the POWER to CHANGE this and CORRECT the situation But it MUST be observed that Iraq has decided to stop Maliki by limiting his Powerbase This action sends huge signals to Iraq and the world that the parliment of Iraq is the convening POWER in Iraq NOT Maliki Nor his Court
SallyDS: night, that is so true -they are working on limiting his power base.
SallyDS: nuke – love the examle of the proverbial microscope and the world scientists!
Nighthk11: I believe should tha fail and the situation continues to go downhill- so that all gains are fading into the sunset- They will have no choice but to call for Maliki to step down or be removed- I don’t understand why some think this is so far fetched- It has been done before
B Man says to (18:19:14):
Kind od like Maliki appointing his son…it’s have acces to the stieings even if you’re not there to control the strings.
Nighthk11: Point in case- It does NOT matter who is at fault in this mess- what matters is The mindset and will of the people” Should the Iraqi security and military forces take the street’s
side- Maliki Allawi and the rest of the bums are done folr
aspen: night do you think if this goes into the streets of Iraq it will open a window of
opportunity for Sadr being backed by the Islamic brotherhoood?
Nighthk11: Sadr is no better than the rest- He is now demanding to take over Security for
Iraq” all this blustering and moves are only making the “Ruling Elite” of this planet look deeper at what they want to do with Iraq
Nighthk11: Now Shibibi is IMO a patriot and intellegene man of honor- I have no doubt that once Maliki and allawi agree on the final 3 ministries- He will activate the RV.
reilly1: But Night doesnt stability play a big part with the world powers ? As far as RV goes inflation, IMF , UN, etc
Nighthk11: Reilly- what do you think is the root cause of concvern for the people aside from jobs?- Jobs mean income- ability to take care of daily needs-
GAU-8: who would invest in a country, with an Ayatolla wanna be like Sadr in charge of
security??, never gonna happen
Nighthk11: There are many opinions and scenarios that can play out- in deciding what is the best method to bring stability- One must consider the reasons for people unrest
alphonse43: food water clothing homes
tmac096: Yes you need to get to the root cause of the problem and fix it. These people don’t want to starve to death. Work equals pay equals food.
Nighthk11: We shall see what the parliment does to handle this and get back on track- Arab leaders will NOT come to Iraq for a summit IMO for two reasons- 1- no security- 2- no gov’t in place-3- the current situation sweeping the ME
Nighthk11: So having identified the reasons for the people discontent- what do you folks think
would be an immed fix to gain time to address the causes in gov’t for this?
cookmarian: Form and RV
Nighthk11: do you believe that if the major concerns of the masses are addressed in a viable and tangible way- that may calm them and allow Parliment more time to address the issues- I would think so- I also believe that the money will be stable
reilly1: give them something to chew on for sure PP via RV, its hard for me to waver from what Med has always said need stable government first then comes the rest
Nighthk11: Should parliment not act to supress the ruling of the SFC- allowing Iraq’s assets to be held up for lawsuits- There will most certainly be leins placed against their monies abroad until those lawsuits can be adjudicated That could tie up all monies abroad until the cases are in open court- That also means the DFI. I see Allawi and Maliki comming to an agreement and the gov’t being completed-
Then we move from there- At some point Maliki will be addressed. He is now trying to “Change” the original text of the Barzani initiative that he agreed to by downplaying Allawi’s powers- so we will see
mas: Night, when you say that tomorrow they WILL address the 3 remaining ministries and FILL the vacancies, what is your level of certainty that this WILL actually occur and is this supported by your sources?
Nighthk11: I look for the SFC to be dismissed- as it was instituted under Bremer- Parliment members have already alluded to this
The meet with Maliki and Allawi should be underway- as I said Parliment will
address the countries money supply first- then gov’t completion’budget- and other issues of power with-in the GOI and it’s players- I said nothing about all this being addressed in 4 days as was implied here
cookmarian: Night do you give credence to the article saying the budget would be looked at toward end of February?
Nighthk11: Now if anyone here thinks that the situation in Iraq is just there – I would suggest you look again- The issues are Regional and of such importance to the US and allies- the SOS- Sec Of State has re-called all US ambassadors for a meeting- Unprecedented move- so is the stability of America’s point democracy in the ME important?? You Decide
cookmarian: A smart move. Remember the hostages kept in Iran?
Nighthk11: I bring information to this site to inform the members- It comes form many
sources and I have both worked with and trust them- Yet although they are closer than I to the pinnacles of power- They are human beings and not always correct in their take
IMO- there are many scenerios that could happen- although it seems that Maliki
has full run- I have been informed that this is NOT the case and yes it is within the scope of possibilities that he can be REMOVED or directed to STEP DOWN. I think he will buy time by coordinating and compromising with Allawi
tudor: I personally thank all of them, they do pretty good. There is no such thing, IMO,
perfect intel please tell your sources thanks night
Nighthk11: That is what I am looking for with this meeting between the two- I speak for
MYSELF- I am at this point only interested in them getting the gov’t formed and Shibibi
activating the RV- All else is in the diplomatic scenes and out of my reach
mercedes: for sure Night I totally agree with you on that statement
Nighthk11: The scenerio to remove him may sound simple- but it will be well planned- Should de-stabilization in Iraq continue to the point where it is percieved that all “Gains” may be lost- A determination will be made with-in the UN- that it is in the interest of the Iraqi people (And the plans of the ruling elite)- that progress would be better served if Maliki were gone. The UNSC will decide as they are still under Chap 7 concerning a “Threat To the stability of the region” UNSC will vote- contact sec gen- and it will go from there. The UN rep Melkert- Am Ambassador and Gen Austin will deliver that msg- This may come later thru a vote in parliment which IMO will be enfortced by the UN
But currently I do NOT think this to be the caes- I believe they are looking “Short
Term” what will allowIraq to forfill their obligations -To the people- on their international
Agreements. What is the quickest way to get things setteled down- MONEY TO THE PEOPLE
cdjsilver51: Night, if CBI remained under the GOI would Shabibi make the decision about the RV or would it be from Maliki
Roadrunner: The federal court should be the first to be removed before they can
make one more corrupted ill decision to the detriment of the Iraqi peoples.
Nighthk11: As I have stated before folks there are many many opinions and things that could happen- But I am just looking at Allawi-Maliki- and the gov’t being formed- then I will see if Shabs will do as I and others think trigger the RV- and I believe he will
Even if the CBI comes under Maliki- Shabs will still be the man- Maliki knows
nothing about finance- His move was IMO twofold- 1- control and consolidation of power- and 2- steal. Now having said that- We know that his cronies in the SFC already said that their decisions are not to be contested- But Shabs was the first to say NO- so even if CBI came under Maliki I think he will still Trigger the RV- For the people-
mailman’s neighbor: Night, IN your opinion, when do you think the govt will form?
Nighthk11: MMN- I am hoping that they come to an agreement at this meet and it will be done by end of this week- That is what they said
Nighthk11: Now I have always said that the RV will be sudden- deliberate- and without warning- I stand by that statement. Summit- I read that they were going to “Postpone” it due to the security situation. It would be a supreme slap in Iraq’s and Maliki’s face if they decided to hold it somewhere else Which is what I think they should do Because Maliki nor the GOI deserve the heads of established Arab gov’ts meeting in their filthy capitol with a hodgepodge gov’t
Busyman: I was hoping that the Summit would put pressure on then to get the gov formed
SallyDS: that, and because there is no (few?) arab leaders that will want to wander too far from home while this turmoil is fermenting in the me
Nighthk11: I will say this to you all- I care about the people of Iraq as I do the people of the world- But I stay grounded by remembering that I “Invested to make money”- I nor you can control the events occurring- we must leave that to the diplomats- at this point I am only interested in “Cashing Out” The situation will either get better or get worse until it is forceably stopped
alphonse43: agree
Nighthk11: Now having said that IMO it has esculated to cover the entire region and does
effect the mindset of the people of Iraq. So since none of us are in control or in a position todo anything effectively to
change what is going on- I must believe that Iraq can do all they want by kicking off golden op’s but they are going nowhere with a tradeable currency
SallyDS: seems to in Kurdistan, at least. there is one group that is trying hard to inflame the entire population! Fortunately, others are trying to shout over his calls
alphonse43: without a tradeable currency
Nighthk11: Unless that currency is internationally recognised and has a value that can be
Sustained
desertnuke: ….and focusing more on economic and industrial growth and rebuilding we would be in a better position…as well as the populous of Iraw and the rest of the world, but they have been bickering with each other for centuries. JMO
SallyDS: I think ALL eyes are on Parliament….I hope they are up to it!
Nighthk11: There is a tremendous amount of diplomatic on the parliment to “Empower Them” thru the UN- That is why Melkert is advocating to “Respect” the SFC dicision and use dialogue to settle the matter
SallyDS: I’ve been reading that inspector general’s report. There are real snipets of hope there,
desertnuke: ty, Parliament is definitely under the proverbial microscope and they are definitely not making the world ” scientists ” very unhappy. Just friggen get on track and get it done. They have to have their craniums inserted so far up their lower G.I. that they cannot not see into the future only “me” and “now”
Nighthk11: What is he saying?- YOU have the POWER to CHANGE this and CORRECT the situation But it MUST be observed that Iraq has decided to stop Maliki by limiting his Powerbase This action sends huge signals to Iraq and the world that the parliment of Iraq is the convening POWER in Iraq NOT Maliki Nor his Court
SallyDS: night, that is so true -they are working on limiting his power base.
SallyDS: nuke – love the examle of the proverbial microscope and the world scientists!
Nighthk11: I believe should tha fail and the situation continues to go downhill- so that all gains are fading into the sunset- They will have no choice but to call for Maliki to step down or be removed- I don’t understand why some think this is so far fetched- It has been done before
Nighthk11
Hello DS- WildfireI- since you arked I will give you my opinion- First they will move to address the safety of the countries money and assets- This will be done by attention to the SFC’s ruling which is in direct contravention to their const
Second- They will address the meeting between Allawi and Maliki – I believe that since the meet is supposed to be closed door- a deal over power will be made
Third- They will address the three remaining ministries anf fill the vacancies- The remaining are sub-mionistries and not soverign
Shibibi will act to activate the RV- Contrary to some belief’s this will provide a modem of stability outweighing the concern over “Unstable conditions”
with PPP- the people will be able to buy generators and fuel until the power grid is up and running and pay for foodstuffs
The situation in Egypt is very important to Iraq and the region because the Military which is the seat of any dictator has sided with the people- This indicates to me that whoever is running the military sees a chance for change
Mubarak cannot stay in power w/out military support
Now- He has appointed a vice president- In diplomatic circles this is being seen as “Se;ecting a successor” Egypt has never had a vice president since Mubarak took power
However the egyptian street have let it be known that they will Not accept ” his pick and they want to pick their own leaders
Now does anyone here see the correlation between the people of Iraq and Egpyt?
B Man says to (18:19:14):
Kind od like Maliki appointing his son…it’s have acces to the stieings even if you’re not there to control the strings.
Nighthk11: Point in case- It does NOT matter who is at fault in this mess- what matters is The mindset and will of the people” Should the Iraqi security and military forces take the street’s
side- Maliki Allawi and the rest of the bums are done folr
aspen: night do you think if this goes into the streets of Iraq it will open a window of
opportunity for Sadr being backed by the Islamic brotherhoood?
Nighthk11: Sadr is no better than the rest- He is now demanding to take over Security for
Iraq” all this blustering and moves are only making the “Ruling Elite” of this planet look deeper at what they want to do with Iraq
Nighthk11: Now Shibibi is IMO a patriot and intellegene man of honor- I have no doubt that once Maliki and allawi agree on the final 3 ministries- He will activate the RV.
reilly1: But Night doesnt stability play a big part with the world powers ? As far as RV goes inflation, IMF , UN, etc
Nighthk11: Reilly- what do you think is the root cause of concvern for the people aside from jobs?- Jobs mean income- ability to take care of daily needs-
GAU-8: who would invest in a country, with an Ayatolla wanna be like Sadr in charge of
security??, never gonna happen
Nighthk11: There are many opinions and scenarios that can play out- in deciding what is the best method to bring stability- One must consider the reasons for people unrest
alphonse43: food water clothing homes
tmac096: Yes you need to get to the root cause of the problem and fix it. These people don’t want to starve to death. Work equals pay equals food.
Nighthk11: We shall see what the parliment does to handle this and get back on track- Arab leaders will NOT come to Iraq for a summit IMO for two reasons- 1- no security- 2- no gov’t in place-3- the current situation sweeping the ME
Nighthk11: So having identified the reasons for the people discontent- what do you folks think
would be an immed fix to gain time to address the causes in gov’t for this?
cookmarian: Form and RV
Nighthk11: do you believe that if the major concerns of the masses are addressed in a viable and tangible way- that may calm them and allow Parliment more time to address the issues- I would think so- I also believe that the money will be stable
reilly1: give them something to chew on for sure PP via RV, its hard for me to waver from what Med has always said need stable government first then comes the rest
Nighthk11: Should parliment not act to supress the ruling of the SFC- allowing Iraq’s assets to be held up for lawsuits- There will most certainly be leins placed against their monies abroad until those lawsuits can be adjudicated That could tie up all monies abroad until the cases are in open court- That also means the DFI. I see Allawi and Maliki comming to an agreement and the gov’t being completed-
Then we move from there- At some point Maliki will be addressed. He is now trying to “Change” the original text of the Barzani initiative that he agreed to by downplaying Allawi’s powers- so we will see
mas: Night, when you say that tomorrow they WILL address the 3 remaining ministries and FILL the vacancies, what is your level of certainty that this WILL actually occur and is this supported by your sources?
Nighthk11: I look for the SFC to be dismissed- as it was instituted under Bremer- Parliment members have already alluded to this
The meet with Maliki and Allawi should be underway- as I said Parliment will
address the countries money supply first- then gov’t completion’budget- and other issues of power with-in the GOI and it’s players- I said nothing about all this being addressed in 4 days as was implied here
cookmarian: Night do you give credence to the article saying the budget would be looked at toward end of February?
Nighthk11: Now if anyone here thinks that the situation in Iraq is just there – I would suggest you look again- The issues are Regional and of such importance to the US and allies- the SOS- Sec Of State has re-called all US ambassadors for a meeting- Unprecedented move- so is the stability of America’s point democracy in the ME important?? You Decide
cookmarian: A smart move. Remember the hostages kept in Iran?
Nighthk11: I bring information to this site to inform the members- It comes form many
sources and I have both worked with and trust them- Yet although they are closer than I to the pinnacles of power- They are human beings and not always correct in their take
IMO- there are many scenerios that could happen- although it seems that Maliki
has full run- I have been informed that this is NOT the case and yes it is within the scope of possibilities that he can be REMOVED or directed to STEP DOWN. I think he will buy time by coordinating and compromising with Allawi
tudor: I personally thank all of them, they do pretty good. There is no such thing, IMO,
perfect intel please tell your sources thanks night
Nighthk11: That is what I am looking for with this meeting between the two- I speak for
MYSELF- I am at this point only interested in them getting the gov’t formed and Shibibi
activating the RV- All else is in the diplomatic scenes and out of my reach
mercedes: for sure Night I totally agree with you on that statement
Nighthk11: The scenerio to remove him may sound simple- but it will be well planned- Should de-stabilization in Iraq continue to the point where it is percieved that all “Gains” may be lost- A determination will be made with-in the UN- that it is in the interest of the Iraqi people (And the plans of the ruling elite)- that progress would be better served if Maliki were gone. The UNSC will decide as they are still under Chap 7 concerning a “Threat To the stability of the region” UNSC will vote- contact sec gen- and it will go from there. The UN rep Melkert- Am Ambassador and Gen Austin will deliver that msg- This may come later thru a vote in parliment which IMO will be enfortced by the UN
But currently I do NOT think this to be the caes- I believe they are looking “Short
Term” what will allowIraq to forfill their obligations -To the people- on their international
Agreements. What is the quickest way to get things setteled down- MONEY TO THE PEOPLE
cdjsilver51: Night, if CBI remained under the GOI would Shabibi make the decision about the RV or would it be from Maliki
Roadrunner: The federal court should be the first to be removed before they can
make one more corrupted ill decision to the detriment of the Iraqi peoples.
Nighthk11: As I have stated before folks there are many many opinions and things that could happen- But I am just looking at Allawi-Maliki- and the gov’t being formed- then I will see if Shabs will do as I and others think trigger the RV- and I believe he will
Even if the CBI comes under Maliki- Shabs will still be the man- Maliki knows
nothing about finance- His move was IMO twofold- 1- control and consolidation of power- and 2- steal. Now having said that- We know that his cronies in the SFC already said that their decisions are not to be contested- But Shabs was the first to say NO- so even if CBI came under Maliki I think he will still Trigger the RV- For the people-
mailman’s neighbor: Night, IN your opinion, when do you think the govt will form?
Nighthk11: MMN- I am hoping that they come to an agreement at this meet and it will be done by end of this week- That is what they said
Nighthk11: Now I have always said that the RV will be sudden- deliberate- and without warning- I stand by that statement. Summit- I read that they were going to “Postpone” it due to the security situation. It would be a supreme slap in Iraq’s and Maliki’s face if they decided to hold it somewhere else Which is what I think they should do Because Maliki nor the GOI deserve the heads of established Arab gov’ts meeting in their filthy capitol with a hodgepodge gov’t
Busyman: I was hoping that the Summit would put pressure on then to get the gov formed
SallyDS: that, and because there is no (few?) arab leaders that will want to wander too far from home while this turmoil is fermenting in the me
Nighthk11: I will say this to you all- I care about the people of Iraq as I do the people of the world- But I stay grounded by remembering that I “Invested to make money”- I nor you can control the events occurring- we must leave that to the diplomats- at this point I am only interested in “Cashing Out” The situation will either get better or get worse until it is forceably stopped
alphonse43: agree
Nighthk11: Now having said that IMO it has esculated to cover the entire region and does
effect the mindset of the people of Iraq. So since none of us are in control or in a position todo anything effectively to
change what is going on- I must believe that Iraq can do all they want by kicking off golden op’s but they are going nowhere with a tradeable currency
SallyDS: seems to in Kurdistan, at least. there is one group that is trying hard to inflame the entire population! Fortunately, others are trying to shout over his calls
alphonse43: without a tradeable currency
Nighthk11: Unless that currency is internationally recognised and has a value that can be
Sustained
desertnuke: ….and focusing more on economic and industrial growth and rebuilding we would be in a better position…as well as the populous of Iraw and the rest of the world, but they have been bickering with each other for centuries. JMO
SallyDS: I think ALL eyes are on Parliament….I hope they are up to it!
Nighthk11: There is a tremendous amount of diplomatic on the parliment to “Empower Them” thru the UN- That is why Melkert is advocating to “Respect” the SFC dicision and use dialogue to settle the matter
SallyDS: I’ve been reading that inspector general’s report. There are real snipets of hope there,
desertnuke: ty, Parliament is definitely under the proverbial microscope and they are definitely not making the world ” scientists ” very unhappy. Just friggen get on track and get it done. They have to have their craniums inserted so far up their lower G.I. that they cannot not see into the future only “me” and “now”
Nighthk11: What is he saying?- YOU have the POWER to CHANGE this and CORRECT the situation But it MUST be observed that Iraq has decided to stop Maliki by limiting his Powerbase This action sends huge signals to Iraq and the world that the parliment of Iraq is the convening POWER in Iraq NOT Maliki Nor his Court
SallyDS: night, that is so true -they are working on limiting his power base.
SallyDS: nuke – love the examle of the proverbial microscope and the world scientists!
Nighthk11: I believe should tha fail and the situation continues to go downhill- so that all gains are fading into the sunset- They will have no choice but to call for Maliki to step down or be removed- I don’t understand why some think this is so far fetched- It has been done before
Busyman: Nighthk11. do you see the final ministries being filled soon or dragging out for awhile?
Nighthk11: Busyman- It will depend on what comes from the meet with Maliki and Allawi- they are the reason all this mess is ongoing- If they can agree on gov’;t formation and completion of the ministries- we can move forward. I am not so concerned about the SFC decision on the CBI- because I believe Shabs
will trigger- If for nothing else so that the funds in CBI cannot be touched because they are already committed for the RV And I do NOT think he cares one bit for what Maliki will say
SallyDS: that, and because there is no (few?) arab leaders that will want to wander too far from home while this turmoil is fermenting in the me
Nighthk11: I will say this to you all- I care about the people of Iraq as I do the people of the world- But I stay grounded by remembering that I “Invested to make money”- I nor you can control the events occurring- we must leave that to the diplomats- at this point I am only interested in “Cashing Out” The situation will either get better or get worse until it is forceably stopped
alphonse43: agree
Nighthk11: Now having said that IMO it has esculated to cover the entire region and does
effect the mindset of the people of Iraq. So since none of us are in control or in a position todo anything effectively to
change what is going on- I must believe that Iraq can do all they want by kicking off golden op’s but they are going nowhere with a tradeable currency
SallyDS: seems to in Kurdistan, at least. there is one group that is trying hard to inflame the entire population! Fortunately, others are trying to shout over his calls
alphonse43: without a tradeable currency
Nighthk11: Unless that currency is internationally recognised and has a value that can be
Sustained
desertnuke: ….and focusing more on economic and industrial growth and rebuilding we would be in a better position…as well as the populous of Iraw and the rest of the world, but they have been bickering with each other for centuries. JMO
SallyDS: I think ALL eyes are on Parliament….I hope they are up to it!
Nighthk11: There is a tremendous amount of diplomatic on the parliment to “Empower Them” thru the UN- That is why Melkert is advocating to “Respect” the SFC dicision and use dialogue to settle the matter
SallyDS: I’ve been reading that inspector general’s report. There are real snipets of hope there,
desertnuke: ty, Parliament is definitely under the proverbial microscope and they are definitely not making the world ” scientists ” very unhappy. Just friggen get on track and get it done. They have to have their craniums inserted so far up their lower G.I. that they cannot not see into the future only “me” and “now”
Nighthk11: What is he saying?- YOU have the POWER to CHANGE this and CORRECT the situation But it MUST be observed that Iraq has decided to stop Maliki by limiting his Powerbase This action sends huge signals to Iraq and the world that the parliment of Iraq is the convening POWER in Iraq NOT Maliki Nor his Court
SallyDS: night, that is so true -they are working on limiting his power base.
SallyDS: nuke – love the examle of the proverbial microscope and the world scientists!
Nighthk11: I believe should tha fail and the situation continues to go downhill- so that all gains are fading into the sunset- They will have no choice but to call for Maliki to step down or be removed- I don’t understand why some think this is so far fetched- It has been done before
SallyDS: ya’ know night, I HOPE you’re right – and there is every reason for me to think you are ’cause you are closer to ‘it’ but I don’t trust maliki…not at all
Nighthk11: His actions will be for the country and the people- both miore important and
bigger than one man- I also believe that an action of this sort will calm the situation
cookmarian: Well I love that. Go Shabibi
cdjsilver51: How can Shabs act on his own if he falls under the rule of the GOI?
Nighthk11: Maliki’s legacy has been defined already- many think nothing will happen to him- I
dissagree- It may take some time but he will be addressed
Nighthk11: That’s simple cdj- did he refuse to give money to the GOI for the budget?- was he
the first to publicy dissagree with the SFC ruling- why do you think he would care what Maliki
says- who is going to fire him?
SallyDS: I have been very impressed by the various cbi people who have carefully laid out their
reasons why NOTHING should happen to them. I think they have – I hope they have – built up
a strong support system that is built on – dare I say it? – fear if maliki touches cbi
Nighthk11: Is the financial policy defined and supported by the IMF-WB-WTO-UN-UNSC-Sec
Gen-US?
SallyDS: court rulings do not equal laws….Parliament could pass a law and undue the ruling on a constitutional amendment.
Nighthk11: That is why I think he will trigger the RV regardless of what they GOI thinks or says
cdjsilver51: Okay, that makes sense and I wasn’t thinking about the IMF and their power over
the monetary policy. thanks nighthk
Nighthk11: correct Sally which they indicated they would address- and they will because it lays
bare to creaditors the countries wealth
Nighthk11: IMO parliment speaking and shabs activating the RV will do much to diffuse
Maliki’s powerbase- people will know that shabs is directly responsible for their prosperity
Nighthk11: so lets see what they get done this week with the new crisis- I am betting on an
agreement and gov’t formed- at some point the money must show up internationally
SallyDS: on how would it influence…there are things the cbi is trying to do to respond to imf
re money laundering, making regional banks comply with accounting stuff….he migt be able to
mess that up of course, the imf is requiring that be done, but…
Nighthk11: Just how many things do you think Maliki will be allowed to get away with until
It’s effects are stopped by the ruling elite?
SallyDS: someone asked a minute ago if Maliki wouldn’t be better off with an rv…let me turn
that around. How would he be better off without one and with all those us dollars in the cbi
Nighthk11: IMO an RV would take a lot of his power away Poverty is his power over the people- No middle class- No jobs- No Money
SallyDS: I was hoping you wouldn’t say that ! With the whole world depending on an rv to
get them out of financial trouble, he surely does have a HUGE lever…
Nighthk11: RV will enhance private business- bring jobs- and prosperity-as well as allow for
small business to florish- Powerbase declined in stature. Well we will see how parliment responds to this
SallyDS: I suspect they have figured out what has to happen, they are just drawing draws on
who gets to play what hand in the game
jonmac: Difference between ME “democracies” and US…we are by and for the people, they are
voted in by the people and then proceed to ignore them.
Nighthk11: somethings gonna be done either with this man or country because the issues are
global not just regional- so we shall see
jonmac: it’s not really a democracy, folks. Not part of their culture in the slightest. People don’t matter
Nighthk11: I read that before- The principles are democratic
Winston: it seems to me that someone has to be as strong as Maliki is on the opposing side.
Maliki can just delay, and all react to him. It doesn’t seem that Allawi is not a strong opposing
force. imo
Nighthk11: That is why this gov’t was structured after britan and the US systems
jonmac: good system, bad people=bad system
Nighthk11: yes- so we just have to wait and see what parliment does this week- but for sure
all will NOT be done in 4-5 days. So all you good folks must decide yourselves how you think this is gonna go
cookmarian: Night do you really believe that Allawi wants a parliment and an RV for the people?
Nighthk11: Yes- Allawi has been on that course since day one- to my understanding- he has
not changed and he – along with others have been calling for the max value of the dinar so
some of you may be very surprised Well folks that is my latest take on what’s going on in mesopotamia today- all stay
well and stay safe
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