October 22, 2010
Re: gossip 10/22/10
« Reply #16 Today at 3:38pm »
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thanks dizardos
Allan Treffry today in Mel's Open Room:
(7:18 PM) very_tired15: Hey Dick. how r u?
(7:18 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF:
(7:18 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF:
(7:19 PM) axeman40: allan, are we at the finish line?
(7:19 PM) very_tired15: I believe I just MIGHT have the answers as to why the delays.
(7:19 PM) dck004: would love to hear that
(7:19 PM) ksp11: ok
(7:19 PM) axeman40: do tell
(7:19 PM) very_tired15: U.S.C. title 28, Section 1658
(7:20 PM) ksp11:
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/usc_sec_28_00001658----000-.html(7:20 PM) ucaughtme: gm Allan
(7:20 PM) ucaughtme: in a nutshell?
(7:20 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: Alan what delays? haven't you heard the CMKX money started being transfered last friday
(7:20 PM) axeman40: does this mean we are screwed
(7:21 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: and highest authority as of last evening is saying things are in final phase
(7:21 PM) very_tired15: THe statute of limitations for securities - at the meximum - if 5 years. when did we stop trading?
sander25nl: 5 years
(7:21 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: oct 28 2005
(7:21 PM) axeman40: 28th
(7:21 PM) very_tired15: maximum
(7:21 PM) very_tired15: October 28, 2010
(7:22 PM) very_tired15: is 5 years.. no lawsuits permissible against dealer-brokers, FINRA, SEC or anyone after that date
(7:22 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: interesting
(7:22 PM) vngntn5: SOL for what
(7:22 PM) hundredtoone: That pesky TITLE 28 Section 1658...huh...No statute of limitations on FRAUD or RICO I don't think...
(7:22 PM) axeman40: but our lawsuit began in the 4th year
(7:22 PM) goinbroke: Allan,this is GD.How does this impact us?
(7:22 PM) ucaughtme: are we still getting paid?
(7:22 PM) very_tired15: axe... that is a very different lawsuit
(7:22 PM) axeman40: what does that mean, bad or good
(7:23 PM) very_tired15: well, if we can truly trust the team, then it is good.. if the team is covering for the banks and the feds, then we are screwed. I prefer to believe the former
(7:23 PM) ksp11: Allen does it say the a settlement must be concluded within the 5 yrs ?
(7:24 PM) very_tired15: No, the settlements would not be paid out until after the 5 years.. so that the settlements would not fund massive lawsuits against the powers that be
(7:24 PM) vngntn5: A lot of people will be screwed by removing position from ROTH IRA
(7:24 PM) hundredtoone: What happened to the HIGHER SOURCE...??...
(7:25 PM) very_tired15: Contrary to the incorrect rumor spreading out there, we will NOT get the announcements at 4pm today...
(7:25 PM) ucaughtme: so now the funds can't be released until after the 28th?
(7:25 PM) axeman40: 5pm?
(7:25 PM) hundredtoone: Is Al supposed to file a response to the MTD??...
(7:25 PM) axeman40: lol
(7:26 PM) ksp11: not untill after sol date makes a lot of sense
(7:26 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: i'm not a lawyer alan but read this::: 2 years after the discovery of the facts constituting the violation;
(7:26 PM) very_tired15: RESPONSE DUE NOVEMBER 8
(7:26 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: we shareholders have not discovered any facts of violation yet
(7:26 PM) hundredtoone: Or is Ths...
(7:26 PM) hundredtoone: Thks...
sander25nl: Alan , what can you tell us about the supreme court ?
(7:27 PM) axeman40: so no way are we getting anything til after the 8th, if we get anything?
(7:27 PM) very_tired15: 2 years after you discover it, but not later than 5 years
(7:28 PM) very_tired15: The Supreme Court DID NOT make a ruling on the CMKX funds
(7:28 PM) ucaughtme: when is the money coming, and if so when.
(7:28 PM) hundredtoone: If we are screwed right now it isn't due to that law or anything else...it is due to the fact that there is NO TRUST...if we knew THAT we could lay this to rest IMO...
(7:29 PM) XerPride1: Allen, Do you know the guy feeding jacbert the bs he's touting?
(7:29 PM) axeman40: AT-So is it 100% that we will not here from anyone today?
(7:29 PM) very_tired15: I do not know the details of when the money may be coming.. but I would imagine it will be after the 28th
(7:29 PM) very_tired15: I am 99.9% certain
(7:29 PM) ucaughtme: thanks allen
(7:29 PM) hundredtoone: I'd say if AL has PROOF we have nothing to worry about...
(7:29 PM) axeman40: thanks
(7:29 PM) ksp11: does the Bevins complaint fall under Section 1658 ?
(7:29 PM) axeman40: looks like another 12 pack tonight
(7:30 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: rofl axeman i hear that bro
(7:30 PM) very_tired15: AH lawsuit is not against FINRA, the SEC, banks, broker dealers or any other such entities..
(7:30 PM) very_tired15: the proof would do no good unless they were included in the lawsuit
(7:30 PM) ksp11: right, ok
(7:30 PM) very_tired15: No ksp, it doesn't
(7:31 PM) ksp11: because it is a Bevins against individuals
(7:31 PM) very_tired15: y
(7:31 PM) axeman40: riddle me this batman, does the trustee have the cmkx money?
(7:31 PM) vngntn5: IMO FTD was known in late 2002
(7:32 PM) very_tired15: My bet? I would bet he does.. but I don't know for certain
(7:32 PM) axeman40: cool
(7:33 PM) bluetripp1: "DO I HAVE A RICO CLAIM?"
www.ricoact.com/ricoact/index.asp(7:33 PM) ucaughtme: the government through this monkey wrench in to the works to take our interest for another week, sounds like
(7:33 PM) very_tired15: It depends upon how long the SOL is for that claim and whence it started tolling..
(7:34 PM) axeman40: at-is there any reason why AL is not communicating with us after BH said the cash was in route Friday?
(7:34 PM) ksp11: Allen do you have a guess about the source of the funds, jurisdiction , regulations,etc
(7:34 PM) ksp11: agency?
(7:35 PM) very_tired15: 4 year SOL for RICO
(7:35 PM) hundredtoone: UC ought to be free soon then...HA HA...
(7:36 PM) axeman40: AT-have you spoken to AH in the past 24 hours?
(7:36 PM) very_tired15: ksp, no better idea than anyone else... only speculation
(7:36 PM) ksp11: ok
(7:36 PM) very_tired15: y..
(7:36 PM) axeman40: anything positive you can share?
(7:36 PM) axeman40: Anything negative tell us Monday. LOL
(7:37 PM) hundredtoone: Or Next YEAR...
(7:37 PM) ksp11: seems like it is unprecedented and maybe does nt fall under any conventional unbrella
(7:37 PM) very_tired15: Things are still allegedly on track.. nothing new as to ER or the global settlements or anything more.. except the military is allegedly involved
sander25nl: military ? for what ? security?
(7:37 PM) ksp11: why would the Mil. be involved ? weird
(7:38 PM) cutglass_1: military?
(7:38 PM) hundredtoone: I TOLD you the PENTAGON was involved...
(7:38 PM) ucaughtme: OMG caspar was right
(7:38 PM) very_tired15: to insure all branches of government are on the same page
(7:38 PM) XerPride1: lmao!! allegedly??
(7:38 PM) very_tired15: this is what I have been told.. I have no personal knowledge of it
(7:38 PM) ksp11: we are in martial law mode
(7:38 PM) cmkxtoo:
(7:38 PM) hundredtoone: Packets were at the PENTAGON remember??...
(7:39 PM) cutglass_1: i can see abby cohen riding naked on a tank barrel holding up a cmkx sign
(7:39 PM) very_tired15: Who knows...
(7:39 PM) brigantine_57: I can't see, where is she?
(7:39 PM) hundredtoone: GOT CMKX???...
(7:39 PM) ksp11: humvees are going come to evry bodies house to deliver packets
(7:39 PM) brigantine_57: Das a lots of humvees
(7:40 PM) ksp11: but its a trick they are going to take all cmkxers away, we will diapear
(7:40 PM) hundredtoone: Could use UFOs if the PENTAGON is involved IMO...
(7:40 PM) brigantine_57: ought to stimulate the economy, just selling all those humvees...
(7:40 PM) very_tired15: as said, who knows
(7:40 PM) ucaughtme: in any case we won't be hearing anything about ER for the next 6 days minimum
sander25nl: thanks for the update Alan
(7:41 PM) brigantine_57: corksuckers
(7:41 PM) hundredtoone: Good to know now we can RELAX...
(7:41 PM) axeman40: ucaughtme-more like 6 years
(7:41 PM) very_tired15: ucaughtme.. maybe announcements, not access... but again, that is my own speculation
(7:41 PM) ucaughtme: I wouldn't be surprised axe
(7:42 PM) cutglass_1: tell hodges to stop feeding hollenegg lies
(7:42 PM) sky_ryder628: Allan....after the 28th of October or November..?
(7:42 PM) ksp11: did you see token joes post about the fed magistrate?
(7:42 PM) axeman40: well another week for the huge letdown. At least I know to not come into anyrooms tonight
(7:42 PM) very_tired15: October 29, 2010 is the 5 year anniversary of our trading halt
(7:42 PM) very_tired15: 28
(7:42 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: announcement from Big Al today that he got ER and then Tyler pays us next friday.........i can live with that
(7:42 PM) axeman40: AT-should we have a party then
(7:42 PM) axeman40: I'll bring the beer
(7:43 PM) axeman40: ucaughtme-bring the got cmkx tshires
(7:43 PM) axeman40: t-shirts
(7:43 PM) hundredtoone: I always love those ANNIVERSARIES...
(7:43 PM) very_tired15: I believe it would be wiser for people to avoid a large group party... stick to the smaller groups of people you personally know.. just my personal opinion
(7:44 PM) Wheres-da-BEEF: alan when u speak to Al do you hear excitement or optimism? a man about to be filthy rich you would think he'd be a little excited
(7:44 PM) brigantine_57: You know, they really screwed up. Because if they would have just paid us five years ago, we would have taken our money and run. Today, there are a lot of people out there who are pissed about the way this was handled and we will be gunning for the corksuckers. We may not be able to sue them into oblivion, but we can sure as hell make sure they get removed from office.
(7:44 PM) axeman40: ok, me, myself and I
(7:44 PM) very_tired15: He is usually pretty consistent.... occasionally he gets mad.. usually when I press an issue too much
(7:44 PM) hundredtoone: Could turn into a MISCREANT BALL instead of a PARTY...
(7:44 PM) ucaughtme: lol axe
(7:44 PM) very_tired15: AH is a pretty cool customer
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