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Post by wolfbela on Apr 28, 2011 10:39:32 GMT -5
Hollenegg,
I am always amazed at how you conveniently come forward from great illness and computer problems to save the world and shareholders that want to spend their own money, more than you did, to engage their own counsel to find our their own answers.
Here is a suggestion.. stay out of our business. Go on with your attorney that you think so highly of... and your disciples....and by the way, where is all of this great news that should be deterring the Fryar participants.
You must really think we are that stupid to not figure out what is going on here. You super-secret subversive spy banter is so old, it is pathetic, and will not have any effect on anyone that can reason for themselves..
There is no WGS, no Supreme Court order, no dinar connection, no packets .. no anything.. Just a concerted effort by people acting in a criminal manner to try and defraud and steal for themselves the rightful property of all the shareholders. But this will end shortly when the principals involved will be deposed and have to ante up the truth and your tired posting will be just what it has always been .. tired and basically untruthful..
You won't have as much luck working to get me banned here, for this is a group that actually wants the truth and has had enough..To have the gall to even think about tearing apart Cameron's incredible effort in FL just goes to show your agenda and how far from reality your thought process is. Give it a rest.. Nobody cares.. Cameron merely presented the words, pictures and facts of Hodges et al. If you can't face the truth of what you and Hodges said, tough.. But soon enough, you may get to spout that all-knowing mouth of yours under oath and we will see the results...
Till that time, stop harassing shareholders that took money and time out of their pocket for these efforts, countless and thankless hours away from their family and their personal enjoyment to do the work they are doing.. Stop acting like a little 5 year old that has to have a smart ###ed comeback for every statement they don't like.. Go tell it to somebody that cares.. In a very short time, all of you and your comments will be irrelevant.
Jerry WB
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Post by BART on Apr 28, 2011 17:24:34 GMT -5
I'm just a s frustrated as most stockholders the way Attorney Hodge's actions have turned out for all of us (so far ).
I do not believe that Mr Hollenegg has lied or purposely misslead us 's. I truly hope that before we can get the Fryar action off the ground that this will be resolved for the benifet for all shareholders.
That being said. I do not believe that getting the Fryar Action started up and going is going to hurt getting this thing settled. I feel we need both.
I have joined the AG Action long ago, paid my money's to the Fryar Action, have my U.S. Senator's office working on getting the information about the trust since August of 2010.
I believe that anything we can do as a person or group we should do to get this resolved.
I do not agree with with very opinion or the way it is expressed. As with most family's their are conflicts. Things are said and actions taken that upset others. We need to curb our ego's and work together as a unified team CMKX.
Bart
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Post by jimmyd on Apr 28, 2011 18:31:47 GMT -5
While I am shocked that Jerry would attack Bob Hollenegg about his illness, I am saddened at the pitiful way that Bob has avoided answering peoples questions with honesty, candor and empathy.
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Post by jimmyd on Apr 28, 2011 18:36:56 GMT -5
And Jerry, you are correct. "There is no WGS, no Supreme Court order, no dinar connection, no packets .. no anything.."
There's no involvement by Peter Maheu either. I have heard that one shareholder has interviewed for the new CEO position though.
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Post by only2percent on Apr 28, 2011 22:56:19 GMT -5
The "New CMKM" is not a "company" in a sense the CMKX was. "The Task Force" describes it better. It was parachuted onto us from above. The presence of alphabets is painfully felt on boards. The shareholders are used for extending a propaganda, but mostly as an easy access to general public's pulse and some non-consensual psychological experimentation with it. The Hodges' group seamlessly merged with the forces that create an emotional roller-coaster for the shareholders. There must be a law against causing that much anguish to humans, but "who is watching the watchmen". I would like to help the shareholders to find an exit. Truman found it in the "Truman Show". For that he had to stay the course to Fiji against the overwhelming odds. And Jerry, you are correct. "There is no WGS, no Supreme Court order, no dinar connection, no packets .. no anything.." There's no involvement by Peter Maheu either. I have heard that one shareholder has interviewed for the new CEO position though.
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 29, 2011 3:43:00 GMT -5
Once again, Hollenegg, uses deception in his answer to Ishmel by implying that someone (me) gave the FL delegation poor information to go into their meeting with. Fl officials didn't think so.. and I had nothing to do with that presentation. But once again, Bob knows all... Get a grip, Hollenegg.. all the information is public. Same information that has been going around the country to all the states. How about one real fact for a change.. I will not apologize for my statements. I have been attacked many times by these people and have had enough. Poor Bob.. What about the poor CMKX shareholders losing their homes while this mess goes on just so we can stroke poor Bob.. I think the best thing that poor Bob could do, if he really cares for the shareholders, is stop BS'ing them, and actually provide them with real facts and data... but that won't happen.. People, this is war.. we need to stop acting like we are playing hopscotch like kids, and get tough and fight for honesty and our money.. period... What will everyone think if what we believe is true is happening.. that a group is stealing from us here...and all of these flowery updates and posts have been just to string us all.... I believe then, your opinions may change very quickly.. I haven't heard anyone deny that what we suspect is going on is.. Stay the course... Once again.. Hollenegg, you don't want to be involved in the Fryar action, so be it. I would be more concerned about why YOUR attorney had to quickly email OUR attorney.. As Cam has said.. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!cculotta@fryarlawfirm.comJerry WB
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 29, 2011 3:56:02 GMT -5
Has Hollenegg ever said he was wrong once?
When a person can keep coming out and saying these things and stoking innocent shareholders on month after month.. something is not right ...and have no remorse about it at all..
I personally could care less about what he says, other than I believe his "guidance" is cruel and hurtful to shareholders and its purpose is questionable.
But when you have to overcome your "illness" to deliberately put down a legal effort that a group wants to take on with a world class shareholder rights attorney to protect their interests... then I have every right to defend my action and the actions of those involved...
And if it isn't liked.. tough....
Why did your attorney, Hollenegg, immediately have to email Mr. Fryar..
Could you give us that answer... we will find out for ourselves shortly... Since you do have all the answers....
J WB
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 29, 2011 4:06:50 GMT -5
BTW, A year later after the funds were supposedly transferred as per Hollenegg on 4/12/10..
Here we sit...Guess we should wait... Not get our own attorney..
Yeah, that's a smart move..
And keep listening to shareholders that won't listen to the FL Securities officials that are telling you clearly.. you are not represented by Hodges.. But what do they know.. the plaintiffs, gurus et al know more, obviously...
J WB
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Post by bhollenegg on Apr 29, 2011 7:16:39 GMT -5
Wolfbela...Please get the facts right. I have no problem with any one acquiring their own legal counsel. I supported the AG Group and the Camerhon Group as long as they work on releasing the funds to the shareholders and work with Attorney Hodges in releasing the funds to the shareholders. I was assured several times of the support for Attorney Hodges and that there would be no personal attacks. You used both groups to launch your attacks and continue to do so to date. I withdrew my support because of documents provided to the authorities with personal attacks and false information aimed at Attorney Hodges, the plaintiffs, the admins, mods of the boards and pal-talk.
Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 29, 2011 7:47:33 GMT -5
Hollenegg,
I am not worrying about supporting an attorney, Hodges, whom I don't know if he IS working on behalf of my interests.. What about the email, Bob..
What about one direct answer..
More gibberish about nothing, which is all we have ever heard.. sorry to say..
I will trust the FL officials and every state official and what they have told me. They think this whole Bivens action is a joke, serves no purpose and doesn't protect the shareholders one bit..
If you call supplying your rumors and the actual updates, releases and communication from Hodges false information.. than blame the source. All I did was pass along this public information..Time for you to get a dose of reality, but therein lies the rub..It seems you have none..
To me, it is a mute point, as soon we will have OUR OWN EXPERT COUNSEL, and this bantering can cease..
I would have not said one word, had not you and your cronies started an attack on me and the Fryar effort.. Just concentrate on the Hodges effort, or what is left of it, as of this time, it is basically on life support, and has been thrown out of one court, and soon, I believe the second..
You should not be misleading people by saying they are represented with Hodges, when it is absolutely not true.. That is not the action of a person who supposedly has the best interests of the shareholders at heart..
But it is not surprising..
It is also not surprising that I got Banned on 29 by the mods who are still posting this morning that it doesn't matter or not if you are represented by Hodges.. Of course it matters.. get it through your heads that one word in a legal document can take away your rights to anything.. It really amazes me how naive people are. But these are the people running the boards, censoring everyone's opinions.
Of course, the AG and Fryar effort are working for justice and the release of funds for all the shareholders. We don't have to support Hodges to do that. We seek the truth, not more predictions, BS, guru and plaintiff speculating....just the truth..Why must everything be about Hodges...
How about when Hodges said to Allan Treffry...and I quote .."You worry too much about the shareholders".. I said to Allan.. he actually said that.. and he said yes.. so take that to the bank....
J WB
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Post by jimmyd on Apr 29, 2011 12:29:04 GMT -5
Bob, Please provide a one word answer. Does Attorney Hodges represent all certificate holding shareholders? Please consult with him before answering rashly. Remember, one word only.
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 30, 2011 8:07:39 GMT -5
This is from Hollenegg on PB 29
He doesn't have the balls to respond here..
Wolfbela (Jerry)...you can make your point without attacking my health issues. Submitting cartoon caricatures to the Florida Officials and others, containing personal attacks of the admins and mods from the message boards and Pal-Talk rooms, Attorney Hodges, the plaintiffs and a few select shareholders, is not professional, lacks maturity, is of poor taste, and dilutes the importance of the points being made. This does not unite the shareholders . If the Florida Officials took this seriously then why do they expect the shareholders to spend thousands of dollars in legal fees instead of the officials doing something about our situation.
You used the Attorney General Group to launch your attacks at those who are working to the release the funds. You threatened me in order to stop me from posting the updates to the shareholders. You said the Attorney General was investigating me and that one of my updates pushed them over the top. I contacted the Attorney General's office in your home state. The investigator for Attorney General said they had no problem with what I posted but they had a problem with your post using the Attorney General in threatening shareholders from posting on public message boards.
You have been very negative and vocal about Attorney Hodges from the beginning because Attorney Hodges did not return your call. You conveyed to me at the time that you were going to sue Attorney Hodges. I asked you to reconsider supporting Attorney Hodges because his work is going to release the funds to all of the shareholders and he does not need to waste valuable time and resources on addressing your lawsuit. You responded that you wanted your money now and could care less about the rest of the shareholders saying it was their problem, not yours.
You complain about Attorney Hodges, who is still working hard on getting the funds released and has made the most progress. Yet, you said you have a White House connection and you were going to sort this out... what happened? You hired your own attorney and he dropped you as a client..what happened? You said the Attorney General was going after Attorney Hodges and me...what happened? You sued Attorney Hodges...what happened?
I was asked to support the AG Group and Camerhon's Group and their tremendous efforts, which I did until the personal attacks and threats like this message. ..
"Al is an attorney and will slither his way around all of it I'm sure. I think we (maybe 25-50 of us) need to show up at his office sometime and demand answers. If we feel he is doing us wrong, a distinct possibility, then we need to show him how to stop doing that somehow. I think this is the only way to get real answers at this point, a physical show of force scares anyone out manned to do the right thing. I hate to do this but look at the AZ shootings, a congresswoman got shot and a federal judge killed, and now listen to all the scumbags squirm. they are all talking about coming together (will never happen) and stopping the name calling and all that bs. Who knows???"
Say what you want, but I will not support this type of behavior and antics because it will damage the Shareholders' cause and credibility, and has no constructive value except providing an example of what not to do.
I want to make this clear...I have no problem with getting an attorney . I support Attorney Hodges and will support any attorney who will work with Attorney Hodges in releasing the funds for the shareholders.
Thank you, BHollenegg
Bob,
I truly believe you are delusional, thus the reason for carrying on the way you do. Don't worry, because after we have Atty. Fryar engaged, I will disappear and you can carry on with your nonstop BS to make people "feel good". In the meantime, our attorney will depose your attorney and see what the hell is going on here..
And if all is not what you think, then will you please shut up, for the grace of God.. This insanity that you keep spouting out is nonsense. I love how you put an attack on me on another board that you know I can't and won't respond to.. Shows how much guts your really have..
BTW, Bob.. I checked you out at the St. Louis National Military Archives. They have no record of you at all.. Several times I have tried. I could post that paperwork from the archives.. for all to see, if you would like...
I doubt you actually called the Atty Gen. office in my state.. If you did, I could care less. I am on a first name basis with one of the heads of the PA SEC Commission and he believes your writings to be pure nonsense and delusional, just as I do..
The time for misleading everyone is over..Your fantasy game is over.. You are getting very nervous Bob, why is that..Once again your illness comes conveniently into play when it serves your purpose.. If so ill, stay off the boards.. do us all a favor..
Keep attacking me.. but people know better.. the 100+ that are contacting Atty. Fryar know better.. and put things in a post I never said.. Bob, I do believe you to be truly ill, I try to sympathize, but this insanity is hurting innocent people you say you want to help... You need to stop and stop now...
Once again you are wrong about my support of Hodges.. I supported Hodges from the beginning and have the faxes that I sent him to prove it.. So once again, Bob, caught in another lie...like the rest of your fabrications. I got angry when I started to see that we were being mislead and disrespected. Why don't you talk to your fellow plaintiffs, who actually paid money for Hodges' services, about that...This fantasy world you live in, well to put it bluntly, is insane...
I can back up all my actions with the AG, the states, every gov. agency I contacted, lawyers, players in this.. with paperwork.. can you do that Bob.. no you can't.. but you will dream up more nonsense just to stroke people along in your fantasy world. I am glad Ishmel has seen the light.. You know why.. cause he heard from rational state legal securities officials that basically you are full of ####.
I am convinced if you want to go insane, listen to Hollenegg and keep reading his gibberish. You will never find one fact, just twisting of sentences that he learned in spy class 101. I welcome the day when I never see one more post like that. That isn't worth $250 to me.. that is "priceless". I could be standing in front of this guy and he would tell me I'm not there. He has so many inaccuracies in his post about me, it isn't even funny. I don' think Bob can separate it anymore..
If someone wants to put this on 29, since Hollenegg doesn't have the guts to go man to man... go right ahead...Make note that he couldn't respond on Cam's board, rather run to 29 where he could find shelter and get kudos for belittling me again.. just like a coward does...
BTW, Bob.. you said this will be over before we engage Fryar.. Since I know it won't be.. will you please stop posting when Fryar is engaged and he can produce some real facts. Be a man of your word, for once..If that is possible.
Jerry WB
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 30, 2011 9:09:42 GMT -5
One other important point that of course Hollenegg made that was uninformed... I have talked to many state officials, including one of the FL officials at the Tallahassee meeting.. All have said.. We can't get your money for you.. you must do that on your own.. This should answer the statement in the missive fired at me by Hollenegg in which he stated why don't the states get your money... BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY CAN'T.. UNDERSTAND BOB??That is our responsibility.. and don't you think the people that are hiding, taking and using our money know that.. so where do you fit in that situation, Bob? How about a straight up answer.... Jerry WB
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Post by goodolboy on Apr 30, 2011 9:10:46 GMT -5
Wolfbela...Please get the facts right. I have no problem with any one acquiring their own legal counsel. I supported the AG Group and the Camerhon Group as long as they work on releasing the funds to the shareholders and work with Attorney Hodges in releasing the funds to the shareholders. I was assured several times of the support for Attorney Hodges and that there would be no personal attacks. You used both groups to launch your attacks and continue to do so to date. I withdrew my support because of documents provided to the authorities with personal attacks and false information aimed at Attorney Hodges, the plaintiffs, the admins, mods of the boards and pal-talk. Thank you, BHollenegg Bobby, you need to get some help. I know your disability check should arrive soon (if you have not already gotten it), and I know where you are headed with it. Here's a challenge for you... No contrived illnesses, no computer virus' or problems, and stay here on the boards posting daily and coherently for the next month. I really wish everyone here knew the seriousness of your problem, and stop enabling you. Good luck my friend.
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Post by porthos on May 3, 2011 10:34:12 GMT -5
I feel right at home on this board. Finally, other people who will back me up on saying that the Plaintiffs are protecting an interest by keeping us misinformed.
Mocking us to our faces, what nerve these people have to spew this chit as facts.
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Post by jimmyd on May 3, 2011 12:21:25 GMT -5
Bhollenegg has yet to answer a direct question with a one word answer...yes or no. Are all cert holding shareholders represented by Al Hodges?
His silence speaks volumes.
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Post by honesty1959 on May 3, 2011 16:36:35 GMT -5
Maybe he is ailing once again...
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Post by siriusnews on May 3, 2011 21:22:03 GMT -5
Funny how Bob H has better health now, his computer is working great, he posts every day also at times posting multiple times. What a quick recovery. Only Problem, he is still batting .000 having never been right on any of his information. what is he zero 0 for 200. He needs to go to the bench.
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Post by bhollenegg on May 10, 2011 13:49:21 GMT -5
This is from Hollenegg on PB 29 He doesn't have the balls to respond here.. Wolfbela (Jerry)...you can make your point without attacking my health issues. Submitting cartoon caricatures to the Florida Officials and others, containing personal attacks of the admins and mods from the message boards and Pal-Talk rooms, Attorney Hodges, the plaintiffs and a few select shareholders, is not professional, lacks maturity, is of poor taste, and dilutes the importance of the points being made. This does not unite the shareholders . If the Florida Officials took this seriously then why do they expect the shareholders to spend thousands of dollars in legal fees instead of the officials doing something about our situation.
You used the Attorney General Group to launch your attacks at those who are working to the release the funds. You threatened me in order to stop me from posting the updates to the shareholders. You said the Attorney General was investigating me and that one of my updates pushed them over the top. I contacted the Attorney General's office in your home state. The investigator for Attorney General said they had no problem with what I posted but they had a problem with your post using the Attorney General in threatening shareholders from posting on public message boards.
You have been very negative and vocal about Attorney Hodges from the beginning because Attorney Hodges did not return your call. You conveyed to me at the time that you were going to sue Attorney Hodges. I asked you to reconsider supporting Attorney Hodges because his work is going to release the funds to all of the shareholders and he does not need to waste valuable time and resources on addressing your lawsuit. You responded that you wanted your money now and could care less about the rest of the shareholders saying it was their problem, not yours.
You complain about Attorney Hodges, who is still working hard on getting the funds released and has made the most progress. Yet, you said you have a White House connection and you were going to sort this out... what happened? You hired your own attorney and he dropped you as a client..what happened? You said the Attorney General was going after Attorney Hodges and me...what happened? You sued Attorney Hodges...what happened?
I was asked to support the AG Group and Camerhon's Group and their tremendous efforts, which I did until the personal attacks and threats like this message. ..
"Al is an attorney and will slither his way around all of it I'm sure. I think we (maybe 25-50 of us) need to show up at his office sometime and demand answers. If we feel he is doing us wrong, a distinct possibility, then we need to show him how to stop doing that somehow. I think this is the only way to get real answers at this point, a physical show of force scares anyone out manned to do the right thing. I hate to do this but look at the AZ shootings, a congresswoman got shot and a federal judge killed, and now listen to all the scumbags squirm. they are all talking about coming together (will never happen) and stopping the name calling and all that bs. Who knows???"
Say what you want, but I will not support this type of behavior and antics because it will damage the Shareholders' cause and credibility, and has no constructive value except providing an example of what not to do.
I want to make this clear...I have no problem with getting an attorney . I support Attorney Hodges and will support any attorney who will work with Attorney Hodges in releasing the funds for the shareholders.
Thank you, BHollenegg
Bob, I truly believe you are delusional, thus the reason for carrying on the way you do. Don't worry, because after we have Atty. Fryar engaged, I will disappear and you can carry on with your nonstop BS to make people "feel good". In the meantime, our attorney will depose your attorney and see what the hell is going on here.. And if all is not what you think, then will you please shut up, for the grace of God.. This insanity that you keep spouting out is nonsense. I love how you put an attack on me on another board that you know I can't and won't respond to.. Shows how much guts your really have.. BTW, Bob.. I checked you out at the St. Louis National Military Archives. They have no record of you at all.. Several times I have tried. I could post that paperwork from the archives.. for all to see, if you would like...I doubt you actually called the Atty Gen. office in my state.. If you did, I could care less. I am on a first name basis with one of the heads of the PA SEC Commission and he believes your writings to be pure nonsense and delusional, just as I do.. The time for misleading everyone is over..Your fantasy game is over.. You are getting very nervous Bob, why is that..Once again your illness comes conveniently into play when it serves your purpose.. If so ill, stay off the boards.. do us all a favor.. Keep attacking me.. but people know better.. the 100+ that are contacting Atty. Fryar know better.. and put things in a post I never said.. Bob, I do believe you to be truly ill, I try to sympathize, but this insanity is hurting innocent people you say you want to help... You need to stop and stop now... Once again you are wrong about my support of Hodges.. I supported Hodges from the beginning and have the faxes that I sent him to prove it.. So once again, Bob, caught in another lie...like the rest of your fabrications. I got angry when I started to see that we were being mislead and disrespected. Why don't you talk to your fellow plaintiffs, who actually paid money for Hodges' services, about that...This fantasy world you live in, well to put it bluntly, is insane... I can back up all my actions with the AG, the states, every gov. agency I contacted, lawyers, players in this.. with paperwork.. can you do that Bob.. no you can't.. but you will dream up more nonsense just to stroke people along in your fantasy world. I am glad Ishmel has seen the light.. You know why.. cause he heard from rational state legal securities officials that basically you are full of ####. I am convinced if you want to go insane, listen to Hollenegg and keep reading his gibberish. You will never find one fact, just twisting of sentences that he learned in spy class 101. I welcome the day when I never see one more post like that. That isn't worth $250 to me.. that is "priceless". I could be standing in front of this guy and he would tell me I'm not there. He has so many inaccuracies in his post about me, it isn't even funny. I don' think Bob can separate it anymore.. If someone wants to put this on 29, since Hollenegg doesn't have the guts to go man to man... go right ahead...Make note that he couldn't respond on Cam's board, rather run to 29 where he could find shelter and get kudos for belittling me again.. just like a coward does... BTW, Bob.. you said this will be over before we engage Fryar.. Since I know it won't be.. will you please stop posting when Fryar is engaged and he can produce some real facts. Be a man of your word, for once..If that is possible.Jerry WB Jerry...you stated..."BTW, Bob.. I checked you out at the St. Louis National Military Archives. They have no record of you at all.. Several times I have tried. I could post that paperwork from the archives.. for all to see, if you would like..." I have been through this type of scrutiny several times. This is a post from a RagingBull member Imsoweary. He makes you a walk in the park on how he feels about CMKX and this is what he had to say... By: imsoweary 03 Jun 2007, 10:06 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 555864 of 1015877 Jump to msg. # bhollengg recently posted a message to this board making some rather significant claims about himself whose validity was questioned by several members. That original message has been deleted by RB for some reason. Many of you know that bhollengg and I often knock heads over messages he posts about CMKX, its past and future as concerns payouts, NSS etc. However what you may not be aware of is that both coinsguy and I have seperate, more personal relationships with bhollengg via email. CMKX is not usually our main topic of discussion in email and over time we have developed a mutual respect and trust of each other. Coinsguy actually has the longer and more personal relationship with bhollengg but he doesn't post here any longer and I do, so that is why I am posting this message, but coinsguy is in complete agreement with me. Bhollengg sent me copies of various documents, pictures, ids etc to suport and prove the claims about himself, for me to review and comment about here in the forum. I have spent several days looking over the material, verifying what I could etc. After doing so, I have come to a conclusion that I wish to share with the rest of the forum. Bhollengg is a true, blue, American Hero. He has done some incredible things in his life and met some prominent people during those years. I cannot give specific details because he doesn't want the details let out, for some very valid reasons. Suffice it to say that I have a new found respect for Bhollengg after reviewing the material he sent me. Although I oppose his viewpoints on CMKX, I feel he is a honorable man, trustworthy and has earned the respect he deserves from each of us. This does not change how I feel about some of his opinions concerning CMKX. If anything, it may cause me to be a little tougher on him simply because I better know what he is capable of. The fact that he and I can oppose each other so strongly in opinion and still be friends, says a lot for his integrity and honor. His claims about himself should be taken at face value. He is and was what he claims to be and, more importantly, he is my friend. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=555864Jerry, my best in hoping you will accurately present information to those who can help the shareholders. Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by bhollenegg on May 10, 2011 14:46:24 GMT -5
This is from Hollenegg on PB 29 He doesn't have the balls to respond here.. Wolfbela (Jerry)...you can make your point without attacking my health issues. Submitting cartoon caricatures to the Florida Officials and others, containing personal attacks of the admins and mods from the message boards and Pal-Talk rooms, Attorney Hodges, the plaintiffs and a few select shareholders, is not professional, lacks maturity, is of poor taste, and dilutes the importance of the points being made. This does not unite the shareholders . If the Florida Officials took this seriously then why do they expect the shareholders to spend thousands of dollars in legal fees instead of the officials doing something about our situation.
You used the Attorney General Group to launch your attacks at those who are working to the release the funds. You threatened me in order to stop me from posting the updates to the shareholders. You said the Attorney General was investigating me and that one of my updates pushed them over the top. I contacted the Attorney General's office in your home state. The investigator for Attorney General said they had no problem with what I posted but they had a problem with your post using the Attorney General in threatening shareholders from posting on public message boards.
You have been very negative and vocal about Attorney Hodges from the beginning because Attorney Hodges did not return your call. You conveyed to me at the time that you were going to sue Attorney Hodges. I asked you to reconsider supporting Attorney Hodges because his work is going to release the funds to all of the shareholders and he does not need to waste valuable time and resources on addressing your lawsuit. You responded that you wanted your money now and could care less about the rest of the shareholders saying it was their problem, not yours.
You complain about Attorney Hodges, who is still working hard on getting the funds released and has made the most progress. Yet, you said you have a White House connection and you were going to sort this out... what happened? You hired your own attorney and he dropped you as a client..what happened? You said the Attorney General was going after Attorney Hodges and me...what happened? You sued Attorney Hodges...what happened?
I was asked to support the AG Group and Camerhon's Group and their tremendous efforts, which I did until the personal attacks and threats like this message. ..
"Al is an attorney and will slither his way around all of it I'm sure. I think we (maybe 25-50 of us) need to show up at his office sometime and demand answers. If we feel he is doing us wrong, a distinct possibility, then we need to show him how to stop doing that somehow. I think this is the only way to get real answers at this point, a physical show of force scares anyone out manned to do the right thing. I hate to do this but look at the AZ shootings, a congresswoman got shot and a federal judge killed, and now listen to all the scumbags squirm. they are all talking about coming together (will never happen) and stopping the name calling and all that bs. Who knows???"
Say what you want, but I will not support this type of behavior and antics because it will damage the Shareholders' cause and credibility, and has no constructive value except providing an example of what not to do.
I want to make this clear...I have no problem with getting an attorney . I support Attorney Hodges and will support any attorney who will work with Attorney Hodges in releasing the funds for the shareholders.
Thank you, BHollenegg
Bob, I truly believe you are delusional, thus the reason for carrying on the way you do. Don't worry, because after we have Atty. Fryar engaged, I will disappear and you can carry on with your nonstop BS to make people "feel good". In the meantime, our attorney will depose your attorney and see what the hell is going on here.. And if all is not what you think, then will you please shut up, for the grace of God.. This insanity that you keep spouting out is nonsense. I love how you put an attack on me on another board that you know I can't and won't respond to.. Shows how much guts your really have.. BTW, Bob.. I checked you out at the St. Louis National Military Archives. They have no record of you at all.. Several times I have tried. I could post that paperwork from the archives.. for all to see, if you would like... I doubt you actually called the Atty Gen. office in my state.. If you did, I could care less. I am on a first name basis with one of the heads of the PA SEC Commission and he believes your writings to be pure nonsense and delusional, just as I do.. The time for misleading everyone is over..Your fantasy game is over.. You are getting very nervous Bob, why is that..Once again your illness comes conveniently into play when it serves your purpose.. If so ill, stay off the boards.. do us all a favor.. Keep attacking me.. but people know better.. the 100+ that are contacting Atty. Fryar know better.. and put things in a post I never said.. Bob, I do believe you to be truly ill, I try to sympathize, but this insanity is hurting innocent people you say you want to help... You need to stop and stop now... Once again you are wrong about my support of Hodges.. I supported Hodges from the beginning and have the faxes that I sent him to prove it.. So once again, Bob, caught in another lie...like the rest of your fabrications. I got angry when I started to see that we were being mislead and disrespected. Why don't you talk to your fellow plaintiffs, who actually paid money for Hodges' services, about that...This fantasy world you live in, well to put it bluntly, is insane... I can back up all my actions with the AG, the states, every gov. agency I contacted, lawyers, players in this.. with paperwork.. can you do that Bob.. no you can't.. but you will dream up more nonsense just to stroke people along in your fantasy world. I am glad Ishmel has seen the light.. You know why.. cause he heard from rational state legal securities officials that basically you are full of ####. I am convinced if you want to go insane, listen to Hollenegg and keep reading his gibberish. You will never find one fact, just twisting of sentences that he learned in spy class 101. I welcome the day when I never see one more post like that. That isn't worth $250 to me.. that is "priceless". I could be standing in front of this guy and he would tell me I'm not there. He has so many inaccuracies in his post about me, it isn't even funny. I don' think Bob can separate it anymore.. If someone wants to put this on 29, since Hollenegg doesn't have the guts to go man to man... go right ahead...Make note that he couldn't respond on Cam's board, rather run to 29 where he could find shelter and get kudos for belittling me again.. just like a coward does... BTW, Bob.. you said this will be over before we engage Fryar.. Since I know it won't be.. will you please stop posting when Fryar is engaged and he can produce some real facts. Be a man of your word, for once..If that is possible.Jerry WB Jerry...here is a photo from my phone bill when I spoke with the PA Attorney's office. The investigator did not have a problem with my posts, however he had concerns about your messages using the Attorney General to stop shareholders from posting on a public message board. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take care, BHollenegg
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Post by CAMRHON on May 10, 2011 16:41:22 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 10 May 2011, 03:10 PM EDT Rating: post rating 1 Msg. 1015882 of 1015943 Jump to msg. # hey gob since kevin is buddies with hollenegg and talked to him about the trust fund and its release and said he would eat crow if it got released, just wondering how he likes his crow cooked. Can't wait until this goes to the bod: COMPLAINT GOING IN TO THE DOJ OMBUDSMAN FOR VICTIMS RIGHTS, THE SEC INSPECTOR GENERAL, BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF CMKX, VICTIMS RIGHTS SPECIALIST IN NEVADA, AND SENT IN MASS TO THE MEDIA: BELOW IS AL HODGES PRIVATE UPDATE TO HIS PLAINTIFF NOVEMBER 22 2010, WHICH WAS CORROBORATED BY PLAINTIFF ROBERT HOLLENEGG ON SEVERAL OCCASSIONS INCLUDED, THE TRUSTEE HAS CONTROL OF THE RESTITUTION FOR ALL CMKX SHAREHOLDERS, THE DOJ HAS SIGNED OFF ON ITS DISTRIBUTION, AND THE PACKAGES ARE READY TO BE DELIVERED TO ALL CMKX BONA FIDE SHAREHOLDERS. THAT RESTITUTION HAS NOT BEEN DELIVERED, THE FACTS IN THE CASE COMPLETELY COVERED UP, AND CURRENTLY OUR OWN COMPANY HAS TO LIE TO EACH AND EVERY SHAREHOLDER AS THEY WERE CLEARLY PART OF THE OPERATION WITH AL HODGES AND THE TEAM ROBERT MAHEU PUT TOGETHER: I advised last Friday that “.... there is so much up in the air now that we are finally in the ‘endgame’ that I am going to defer until Monday, late in the day, to ...” respond to your status inquiries. Please be advised as follows: * The JCS is in control of the release of the World Global Settlements (WGS); they have been so situated for several weeks now. Fortunately we are in direct contact with a person who speaks directly with the Team leadership. Unfortunately he is somewhat constrained in what specifics he can pass on. * The original estimate of when announcements could be made, new currency would be available and we would have ER, have obviously slipped. Part of this is due to a 10 day extension given to the politicos to avoid interference with the elections. Part is apparently due to the way in which the Team operates which gives new meaning to ‘methodical;’ which is not to say it is unnecessary or unwarranted. * Although I have had no direct contact with the Trustee(s), I am advised that the funds are in their constructive possession. In other words, we must still await confirmed receipt of ER. * I have already spoken and opined on the values involved and have received no additional information that has any impact on those statements and opinions. * I have no specific information on the conglomerate, or on the date you will receive any packet or other written notice. My opinion on such matters has not changed; i.e. there will be a follow-on entity(s), and you will receive written notice within a very short time following confirmed release of ER. * I cannot tell you specifically when this will be done; in my opinion, it is imminent. However, I will advise you of some of the information I have received of late, which follows in a separate paragraph. Please understand that this is the ‘endgame’ so to speak. Of necessity, folks get very worried about too much info getting out to too many people. Whoever let out my VA trip-notes has done us all a great disservice, as I now am somewhat of a pariah in terms of receiving info. However, the info I do receive and pass on to each of you is info that I am persuaded is real and accurate at the time; please keep in mind that this is a matter of great complexity, value and conflict – accordingly, things tend to change dynamically. Keep the faith. Al __________________________________________________________ Some of the more interesting things I have been directly told, of late: * The Chinese were responsible for the missile shot off the coast of LA and disabling of the cruise liner off Mexico utilizing a directed EMP. * Obama’s attendance at the G-20 turned it into a G-19 minus one; he was laughed at. He then went to Japan to seek $$ there and was rebuffed. He the went to the J royals and sought a $1B payment for his retirement to be paid to his Presidents Club; he was told that there would be no $$ until the WGS were paid, including $10.7B owed to the royal family of J. * Obama continues to lie to everyone; he has repeatedly lied directly to essentially all world leaders about his intentions and continues to tell all that the WGS have been paid out. * When Obama was told no $$ until WGS paid, he said he would talk to Bonney upon his return, 11/15 and would instruct the JCS Team to pay it out; he was then asked why they should believe this most recent lie, was shown the door and advised not to contact them until finished. * The banks have been struggling to reconstitute/refresh their balance sheets to become fully Treasury compliant; they are now all Treasury compliant. * Obama told the Sec. of Homeland Security before his NATO trip that no WGS funds were to be disbursed during his absence and for a period of two weeks thereafter. * Alan Greenspan made a private speech to all of Paulson’s billionaires in NY last week explaining that the world [and US] financial system was in such bad shape as to be considered “un-repairable.” He went on to explain that the only solution was to return to asset backed currency, specifically gold backed dollars. Some have reported that the asset backed dollar will be supported 20% by gold and 80% by precious metals. * The logjam experienced last week, causing a shut down Wednesday night has now been resolved and all BASEL list payments are to be completed by Tuesday, 11/23. * The US has been returned to a Constitutional Republic – the corporation is dead. Papers required to evidence this fact were filed with the World Court @ 1:30 AM EST 11/21/10. * The DOJ signed off on CMKX distribution. * Obama was due to be arrested at Andrews AFB upon return Sunday. Actually, he was confronted in the WH and then taken to a closed room; he was later escorted to Camp David. This delayed the pay-out cycle by 4 - 8 hours. * All will be paid out before Thanksgiving such that ER is confirmed. * This just in: watch Indiana tomorrow as there may be an “incident.”
That’s all I have at the moment
PLAINTIFF ROBER HOLLENEGG'S STATEMENTS MADE REGARDING THIS UPDATE:
11-3-10 Robert Hollenegg Post
We are not here due to a lost cause for us; We are here for what is due to us because of the lost.
The current and accurate information at this time are the following...
1. The CMKX Distribution Funds are in place.
2. Logistics being methodically worked.
3. ER (permission) is expected any moment, literally.
4. Attorney Hodges will notify the Shareholders when ER occurs.
Please remain civil to those who are stressed due to their individual circumstances. Keep the faith, remain positive, stay away from the negativity, and do not worry. Worrying is an unnecessary torture to what will be a great outcome and income for the Shareholders. Thank you All.
All the best,
BHollenegg
11-4-10 Zando Post and Robert Hollenegg's response:
Mr Bob, with all due respect, I have a question: Do you really have something concrete to say or you just like drawing attention lately?
I had a lot of confidence in you but now (with all the latest hiccups and NON-developments) I am just a little bit confused.
The first thing that comes in my mind is the similarity with the old "pump-up/let down" style of the people with an "agenda" back in 2004-2007.
Care to enlighten me, please? Just tell me how wrong I am.
Many thanks
Robert Hollenegg Reply to Zando Post
Zando...I provided the information, it was current and correct.. I have control in providing information accurately and honestly, but I do not have control over unexpected last minute changes. This is not a pump and dump. This is history in the making.
Thank you,
BHollenegg
11-23-10 Robert Hollenegg Post
We will hear something...in the meantime,
The DOJ signed off on CMKX distribution.
Funds are with the trustee(s)
Please wait for an official announcement.
Thank you All... Thank you Attorney Hodges and Associates.
Happy Holidays
BHollenegg
1-1-11 Robert Hollenegg Post
Wow! Sorry that you had to ask several times for answers. I have company staying with me over the holidays. I stayed up all night to answer emails and message posts while they slept. I was answering this thread going from page 1 to page 2. I tried to get as much in before stopping for lunch with my company. I logged back in (BikiniPro can verify this). I opened this thread to see the last message I responded to. I just saw and read all your messages. I wasn't avoiding your questions. They are justified and your concerns are valid. I have a request if the Admin and the Mods would please consider. Emotions are understandably high. If anyone received a vacation because of their reaction would you please reinstate them.
The last update relating to the distributions I received from Attorney Hodges was Dec 30, 2010. The update was the appeal information, which I posted earlier. I misread the part explaining the filing of the appeal. I corrected this earlier and extended my apologies. The appeal will be filed if there are problems with the future payments, including this payment package. The first payment package should be forthcoming.
I have not received a confirmation on the information I sent to Attorney Hodges. In the past, Attorney Hodges responded in a timely manner the information I sent in for verification. The only time I did not receive any responses was during a 10 day quiet period after the election week. The information from Chucky's source during this time was impeccable and verified correct two weeks later when I received the Plaintiff's update.
I know Lt KK and his sources' connections. I know Chucky and his source's connection. Their sources have the attention and respect of those who are involved.
From all the information available to me, I feel very confident that the first payment packages are en route, if not, will be shortly. The amounts are huge, well deserved, and life changing.
I understand the disappointment of not receiving the first payment package before Christmas or the end or the year. The Shareholders deserve the optimum. This is huge in every aspect. Let's give this a few more working days. This is a time for us to stay focused on what we are about to receive. The stress level is high enough without adding to it. Please, let's keep the threats, bravado, and personal attacks at a minimum for the sake of all the Shareholders.
To all shareholders and their families a Happy, Healthy, and Wealthy New Year.
Thank you,
BHollenegg
1-6-11 Robert Hollenegg Post
Dave and All,
I was out of town for medical issues. Sorry for the delay in responding.
These are the facts as I know to date.
Funding for the The CMKX Payments are in place.
First payment packets 80 cents pps enclosed.
Packets released to distribution holding centers of a well known carrier, (security..name is not provided for public dissemination)
Packets are ready for release, awaiting permission.
CMKX is not the only payment distribution.
This is the first distribution packet of more to come.
Attorney Hodges has an appeal ready and will file the appeal to ensure future deliveries are completed satisfactory.
Tightened security in place, including communications.
Attorney Hodges because of his close involvement cannot release details.
Attorney Hodges will not update the Plaintiffs because a Shareholder posted a copy of one of the updates which was marked Private and not for public knowledge. The update had highly sensitive information. As a result, no updates.
What can the Shareholders do?
The amount of funds involved, the amount of entities involved both civilians and governments, the amount of recipients involved, there are some issues and concerns are being addressed. I do not know what the issues are or what it will take to make it copacetic. If I believe harassing those involved, calling my congressman, calling the authorities, hiring more lawyers would release the funds any quicker, I would be the first to advocate this.
When will the CMKX Distribution First Payment Packet arrive at the final destination?
The delivery should have occurred already. Based on this, and the above information, I expect the CMKX Distribution First Payment Packet any time. If I receive any information which I can share I will. I have provided what I know at this point.
Thank you,
BHollenegg
THIS WAS SENT TO ME PERSONALLY AND MANY SHAREHOLDERS BEFORE COMING PUBLIC, FROM PLAINTIFF ROBERT HOLLEGG:
I know it is difficult to believe especially with the delays and no official bank statement. I would not hesitate in leaving and getting on with my life if there were no funds. The following is what I know and my understanding of our situation. The funds were transferred April 11, 2010 to the trustee. I was on the phone with Al as the transfer was being done. All we required was ER (permission) to release the funds to the shareholders. The CMKX Trust Funds were swept into the Global Funds. This was not suppose to happen. We are not sure if this was an administrative error or an attempt to control our funds. Imo, I feel the CMKX funds came from a covert sting operation and the World Global funds were from other sting operations. Robert Maheu was with Global Intelligence. I believe that the covert funds associated with Robert Maheu's activities were identified as "Global" . Since Maheu is associated with CMKX Funds, when the DTCC did an administrative clean up of CMKX, the funds were moved to the administrative control of the World Global Funds. The World Global Funds are for distribution. To protect the smaller trust funds who would not have the money for legal fees if their accounts were not fully funded, a stipulation was put in place as a protective measure that all accounts had to be fully funded and released at the same time. Al fought this and had CMKX separated from the rest of the funds several times, but the other funds had the decision reversed so they could use us as a leverage to get their accounts fully funded. Al went to Va to get the rest of the trust accounts fully funded and whatever was required to get the funds released. Right now, the funds are ready, the government will put out a pre-recorded announcement naming some accounts entitled to a payout. This announcement will commence the release of the funds for CMKX. Presently, we are waiting for the government to brief the newly elected politicians and then the funds are released. The supreme court has put out a directive that the shareholders must be paid no later than the end of the year because the taxes were paid. Al pushed to have the funds released straight away. An agreement to wait 10 days was made so the new politicians can be briefed. Al cannot communicate with the shareholders or the plaintiffs until given the okay. The Listener, who I know and have the greatest respect, has a contact who is well connected to the individuals at the highest level handling this, confirmed what is happening..said it was huge, the conglomerate is huge, involves national security, it is done, just waiting for the announcement. Chucky is close friends with the Listener who is Stormgrey's brother. Chucky is getting the up to date info, read his post. Al is waiting for permission to communicate with the Shareholders/Plaintiffs. I know this is long, but I hope you can appreciate what has transpired and what will be and understand the present situation. All the best, Robert
PLAINTIFF REECE HAMILTON (WYATT11) EXPLAINS THAT AL HODGES TRUSTEE HAS THE CODES AND THE TAXES WERE TAKEN OUT OF OUR TRUST ON DEC 30/31 2009, A FACT CONFIRMED TO ME BY AL HODGES, A FACT HE WAS WILLING TO TESTIFY TO IN THE SURPREME COURT OF BRITISH COLUMBIA:
wyatt11_11: AL HODGES IS NOT WAITING ON THE SEC TO DECIDE TO PAY US. THE TRUSTEE IS IN RECEIPT OF THE MONEY AND THEY WERE GIVEN THE ACCESS CODES PRIOR TO THE TRANSFER OF MONEY,
(8:18 PM) Gman_G:man_G: ty wyatt......do we know what he is waiting on?
(8:18 PM) wyatt11_11: THEY ARE WAITING ON A"ECONOMIC RECEIPT". CONFIRMING THE TRUSTEE IS IN ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONTROL OF THE MONEY
(8:19 PM) Gman_G: Gman_G: so wyatt we are waiting for that receipt so the button can be pressed right?
(8:20 PM) wyatt11_11: ONCE THE TRUSTEE HAS CONTROL THEN AL WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE FREELY
(8:22 PM) wyatt11_11: PEOPLE WE ARE AT THE END. I WOULD LOOK FOR TYLER TO ANNOUNCE THE NEW TA AND SOMETHING ABOUT "1010" AND NEW CORP. CLARK AND AL WILL BE SPEAKING AT THE SAME TIME. THIS UPDATE IS JUST THE BEGINING THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.
(8:23 PM) Gman_G: so wyatt do you see them releasing the funds once they get this economic receipt?
(8:24 PM) wyatt11_11: THIS RUNS THROUGHOUT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF OUR GOVT. AL HAD REASSURED ME NO MORE THAN 10 MINS AGO THAT ALL WAS GOOD AND THAT HE COULD NOT ELABORATE ANYMORE DUE TO NATIONAL SECURITY. SO PLEASE STAY GROUNDED FOCUSED AND BE KIND TO YOUR FELLOW "MILLIONAIRE"
(8:35 PM) wyatt11_11: THE TRUSTEE WAS PAID IN 09 FOR TAX PURPOSES SO WE NEED PAID IN JAN
(8:40 PM) Gman_G: (8:39 PM) BullDawg: (8:33 PM) wyatt11_11: IMO.54 TO START
wyatt11_11: I HEARD THIS CAME FROM SOMEONE HIGH UP1, SETTLEMENT 2, BUYOUT 3, TRADING
(8:40 PM) dugg33: wyatt11_11: THE TRUSTEE WAS PAID IN 09 FOR TAX PURPOSES SO WE NEED PAID IN JAN
BILL FRIZZELL SAYS HE HAS THE CONFIDENTIAL BANKING RECORDS AND WORKED WITH THE TEAM RUNNING THE OPEATION HERE, MAKING IT APPEAR THE WHOLE ENDING AT THIS MOMENT IS CONTRIVED AND SEVERAL ONGOING CASE ARE CONTRIVED, AND SEVERAL CASE WHICH HAVE CONCLUDED WERE TOTALLY CONTRIVED INCLUDING THE SEC ADMINSTRATIVE HEARING:
His derivative letter where he states he has these confidential records is here:
fbruhm.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tick&action=display&thread=2193
Mr. Frizzell in an update to shareholders explains when he received those records, along with other CMKX lawyers, all who appear to be complicate in this fraud:
4/25/05 From Bill Frizzell's Owners Group,
I would like to report on my meetings in Las Vegas last week. I met with Don Stoecklein and others in his office. Don is representing CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in the SEC proceeding. I had the pleasure of meeting Urban Casavant, Carolyn Casavant, Ron Casavant, Mike Williams, and Ed Dhonau. Anthony Demint, with Mr. Stoecklein’s office, was present during most of the meetings. There were other individuals present at different times during the day. Mr. Maheu was out of town and unavailable.
Don Stoecklein is spending long hours preparing for the hearing and guiding the work being done to have the proper financials filed. We have reviewed over 1200 pages of documents which were contained in the SEC’s administrative file. Witness lists and exhibit lists have been exchanged. We mutually agreed upon the terms of a confidentiality agreement. There is certain information which could only be disclosed to me with this confidentiality agreement in place. This was discussed prior to my visit to Las Vegas and was not unexpected. I must be privy to certain information to be able to be an effective advocate for our shareholders.
In conclusion, the Coalition looks forward to a prompt response from the Commission so that justice can take place in this matter and so that those responsible for aiding this fraud, even if they are government employees, are brought to justice.
Thank you
MY OWN COMPLAINT FILED WITH THE DOJ:
Dear Marie A. O'Rourke, Debra Waite, and David Kotz:
Marie A. O'Rourke Victims' Rights Ombudsman Executive Office for United States Attorneys Department of Justice RFK Main Justice Building 950 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W. Room 2261 Washington, DC 20530-0001 Phone: (877) 574-9302 Fax: (202) 252-1011
Debra Waite Victim Witness Coordinator debra.waite@usdoj.gov (702) 388-6218 (800) 539-8002
David Kotz U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Office of Inspector General 100 F Street, NE Washington, DC 20549-2736 Telephone: (202) 551-6061 FAX: (202) 772-9265 Email: oig@sec.gov Toll-free phone number (877) 442-0854
I represent tens of thousands of crime victims who have their restitution withheld from them by the DOJ and SEC who have colluded together to hide the facts in this particular case. The case is CMKX, which was a publicly listed stock in which the DOJ and SEC ran a parallel investigation on. The investigation found that insiders of CMKX were committing fraud, including selling unregistered shares and money laundering.
In the evidence presented to the DOJ Victims Rights Ombudsman and to the Victim Witness Coordinator for Nevada, it is clear that the DOJ and SEC are violating several crime victims’ rights, but in particular they are violating point six below, “the right to full and timely restitution as provided by law”.
The Rights Established Under The Crime Victims' Rights Act of 2004
The Crime Victims' Rights Act of 2004, 18 U.S.C. § 3771 provides that officers and employees of the Department of Justice shall make their best efforts to see that crime victims are notified of, and accorded, the following rights:
The right to be reasonably protected from the accused. The right to reasonable, accurate, and timely notice of any public court proceeding, or any parole proceeding, involving the crime or of any release or escape of the accused. The right not to be excluded from any such public court proceeding, unless the court, after receiving clear and convincing evidence, determines that testimony by the victim would be materially altered if the victim heard other testimony at that proceeding. The right to be reasonably heard at any public proceeding in the district court involving release, plea, sentencing, or any parole proceeding. The reasonable right to confer with the attorney for the Government in the case. The right to full and timely restitution as provided by law. The right to proceedings free from unreasonable delay. The right to be treated with fairness and with respect for the victim’s dignity and privacy.
Crime Victims' Rights Act - 18 U.S.C. § 3771
An evidence package was sent to Special Agent Gerald Burkin of the Nevada FBI showing that the SEC aided and abetted the insiders in CMKX sell unregistered shares and hide the crime. I was sent to Mr. Burkin by Timothy Vasquez’s office when I contacted them about what appeared to be fraud being committed by the SEC in the CMKX case.
The evidence entered to Mr. Burkin clearly showed that the DOJ and SEC were fully aware of brokers who had sold hundreds of billions of counterfeit or unregistered shares of CMKX, and allowed them to continue selling those counterfeit shares and steal the money with no charges being laid by the DOJ or any actions taken by the SEC.
The evidence also clearly showed that the DOJ and SEC and company lawyers for CMKX had the evidence of the fraud in their possession, and then allowed the stock to trade for over a year. Six hundred billions shares were sold and supposedly all the money stolen, all while the DOJ and SEC watched. In fact the SEC was contacted on every single fraudulent sale made by the masterminds of the fraud, after the fraud records were subpoenaed by the DOJ and SEC. The DOJ and SEC aided the fraud, and let CMKM Diamonds Inc get destroyed in the process and harming all CMKX bona fide shareholders or they ran a sting operation using CMKM Diamonds Inc and used its shareholders as pawns in that sting.
In either case almost all the victims’ rights of all CMKX bona fide shareholders has been violated systematically for years. The victims in this case have had to try and hire lawyers to release the money talked about below, that being the restitution for all CMKX bona fide shareholders who were not only harmed by the perpetrators in this case, but were harmed by the DOJ and SEC in this case. The victims in this case should not have had to hire lawyers (in particular Mr. Al Hodges who has filed a bivens class action to try and force the release of this restitution) to get their restitution released that is being withheld from them, that should be the duty of the authorities involved, and since they won’t investigate this matter, it should be the duty of the Victims Rights specialists in DOJ and should be the duty of the Inspector General of the SEC to see to it our restitution is released. Each of us who are victims in this case have the right to full and timely restitution as provided by law.
Corroborating evidence which clearly shows our right to that timely restitution is being violated has been entered in this case and is attached. Here is an excerpt from that evidence which is all that is needed to prompt an immediate investigation and action by your offices;
MR. AL HODGES, LAWYER FROM CALIFORNIA WHO CURRENTLY IS TRYING TO FORCE THE GOVERNMENT AND IN PARTICULAR THE SEC AND DOJ TO DUE THEIR LEGAL DUTIES AND RELEASE THE MONEY HELD FOR ALL CMKX SHAREHOLDERS. THIS IS WHAT MR. HODGES SAID IN CALIFORNIA COURT ON AUG 2ND 2010 WHICH PROVES SECRET DEALS WERE CUT AND RESTITUTION FOR ALL CMKX VICTIMS WAS PLACED INTO FROZEN TRUST TO BE RELEASED TO CMKX WHEN AGREED UPON. THAT TIME IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS PAST DUE, A CLEAR VIOLATION OF OUR VICTIMS RIGHT TO TIMELY RESTITUTION BY LAW:
AH: As I started to say, here is the simple answer, your Honor, as I started to say a few minutes ago and I probably did not finish. The original agreement, there was a war that ensued after the sting got under operation because what the sting always contemplated was that Mr. Maheu would collect all of these bad doers, the hedge fund people and people like T.D. Waterhouse and all the other stock brokerage houses around who were naked shorting this company, collect them all in a big room and offer them a deal for two reasons.
First of all, to collect money for CMKX for what had been done to them. And second of all to teach these people a lesson that there were people out there watching what was going on. Hopefully that would head them off from continuing in such illicit and illegal and improper behavior. That was in fact done and I have a witness that was there when it was done. They had a room about three times the size of your courtroom in which they had representative from all of these brokerages from all over the world. They watched a video presentation, because Mr. Maheu, as the court may be aware, was at one time closely associated with the CIA, Howard Hughes and all kinds of other people.
Judge: I was going to ask you whether that was the same Bob Maheu.
AH: It is indeed the same one, a gentleman I happened to make acquaintances with in the 70’s to my good fortune. At any rate all of these people were in this room and were shown a video and a slide presentation of all of the evidence of their wrongdoing and they were offered an opportunity to either step up and sign away your money and pay a reasonable amount for each transaction you did illegally and improperly or go walk out of here and get prosecuted and go to jail because what you did was criminal. Every single person in that room stepped up and made a deal. After that time there became a big conflict between the SEC commissioners and the other governmental entities who were supporting the SEC commissioners about who was going to have the right to release this money to the shareholders and when, My understanding is that it went on for some number of months but ultimately the SEC commissioners prevailed and convinced Mr. Maheu and his associates that it had to be their decision because only they and the rest of the government could determine when this sting had fulfilled its function. That was the basis on which he gave them the power to make this decision about when the money is to be released. It is my understanding that every trust that is currently being held for release of this money is being held by a person who is sworn to observe that requirement. That the SEC, the US government whoever is to make this payment, goes first. Since my information is that was the SEC commissioners that have this power, this is why they are the defendants in this case.
Judge: Let’s return to your Bivens theory, it is taking a head point
AH: this money was supposed to have been released within a year of the time the company was originally de-listed in October of 2005. This is now almost October of 2010, some 4 years past that time. It is taking only because they refuse, not withstanding information they have continued to give to the shareholders, they continue to refuse to release this money. If they don’t release they money then it is a taking. Because they are preventing what is rightfully ours for us to receive. That is why it is a taking.
www.cmkxsting.com/coalition-history/
MR. HODGES AGAIN REFERS TO THE SECRET DEALS ENTERED BY THE PERPETRATRORS AND BY THE DOJ. IT IS CLEAR THAT THESE DEALS WERE NOT CUT SECRETLY FOR THE PUBIC’S GOOD AS TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FRAUD HAPPENED AFTER THIS STING. THE SAME CRIMINALS WHO HAD THEIR CRIMES COVERED UP IN OPERATION UPTICK CONTINUED TO NAKED SHORT THE MARKET INTO THE TRILLLIONS UNTIL THEY HAD TO GRANDFATHER THE FELONIES, AFTER THE CMKX FRAUD THE SAME GROUP NAKED SHORTED THE ENTIRE MARKET, INCLUDING BONDS AND GOLD AND SILVER, INTO THE TRILLIONS. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE HAD THESE DEALS MADE PUBLIC, IT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOSES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
A Clifton Hodges James S. Kostas Donald W. Ricketts*
*Of Counsel
4 East Holly Street Suite 202 Pasadena CA 91103
Tel: (626) 564 9797 Fax (626) 564-9111
May 14, 2010
MOST URGENT
VIA FACSIMILE ONLY (202) 456-2461
Honorable Barack Obama President of the United States of America Whitehouse Washington, D.C.
Dear Mr. President:
I write to you this morning because people within your current administration continue to frustrate dissemination of the World Global Settlements; I am advised today that Mr. Leon Panetta, the DCI, participated in this act on May 14, 2010. I represent some 50,000 shareholders who are to be paid a settlement which consists mainly of monies collected from banks, brokerages, hedge fund corps, market makers, the Depository Trust Corporation/Federal Reserve, and various billionaire “naked-shorter” individuals, as well as some monies due from the SEC for damages.
These various monies collected have been held far longer than they should have been, and were swept into the World Global Settlements, thereby delaying payment even further. Taxes were paid into the U.S. Treasury due on these “Settlements” on December 30th and 31st; distribution of these settlement funds could not legally be withheld past midnight of February 14th, 2010.
The continued holding of these settlement funds results in the violation of more laws such as “banking fraud,” “trust fund violations,” and, in times of war, “International Financial Terrorism.” These charges are not at the discretion of the government to overlook in the name of withholding monies that are neither its property, nor its right to hold – especially given that now the Treasury is in “DEFAULT” and owned in large part by the Chinese government."
THIS FROM AL HODGES BIVENS CASE, THE SHAREHOLDERS OF CMKX WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO PROMISED OUR MONEY WAS TO BE RELEASED IMMINENTLY. IT SHOULD BE A CLEAR VIOLATION OF OUR RIGHT TO HAVE THE DOJ/SEC CONTINUALLY LIE TO MR. HODGES AND IT IS NOT RIGHT OUR OWN COMPANY REFUSES TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THESE NEGOTIATIONS. WE ASK WHO THESE AGENTS AND EMPLOYEES ARE AND WHO NEGOTIATED FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS AND FOR THE COMPANY:
cmkx.info/Hodges-3.87Trillion-Bivens-Lawsuit.pdf
[Complaint paragraph 37] “Demand for release of said moneys has been repeatedly presented to the Securities and Exchange Commission without result. Agents and employees of the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Justice have represented repeatedly that the release of moneys for distribution was imminent, and/or would occur within several weeks, and/or would occur within less than a month. Each of said representations have been made knowing them to be false, and at the specific direction of the named Defendants. These actions of withholding distribution of said moneys, without compensation and without due process of law, amount to a taking of the property of the individual Plaintiffs and of all similarly situated.”
In conclusion, each bona fide shareholder of CMKX is a victim, we had restitution placed in frozen trust which was suppose to be released five years ago per the agreements made by the DOJ and SEC, evidence below. Please do your duties and see to it that each victim in this case gets their full and timely restitution as provided by law. Thank you, CMKX Shareholders Coalition for Justice.
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Post by siriusnews on May 10, 2011 16:48:48 GMT -5
Bob H. do you care to send me that info on yourself. I will believe it if your saying it and do not have to see it, but would like to see it with my own eyes. I can respect you for that or for your past history and background, just as I can respect Lt KK for being a Vietnam Vet. some of my good friends are Vietnam Vets, but even at that, it does not mean I agree with you recent actions or that of Lt KK. In fact, it almost takes away any of your past credibility, based on the two of you and your actions the past 10 months. For that, I have no answers, rymes or reason on why you both ahve constantly posted non-stop, today tomorrow, mon-wed-fri. Hopefully we some day will learn why thetwo of you have tortured the shareholder base. Those are my views and I feel strongly about them, based on the two of you and your actions the past 10 months. As for you and Lt KK's service records and accomplishments of the yester years, I congratulate you both on your service. Again, feel free to send me the same info you sent that guy on Raging Bull, that is if you trust me. I'm an average Joe, honest guy here just trying to get to the bottom of the CMKX story and the craziness of the Guru's and their false predictions. You do realize Bob H that you have been .000 zero for in all your comments and past along information. Can you at least admit that. richard SiriusNews
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Post by siriusnews on May 10, 2011 16:51:49 GMT -5
Bob H as for how and why I'm following CMKX. I'm a shareholder. I'm following the new Deep Capture Story, with part 4 just coming out late last night. www.cmkxshareholder.com/CMKX/deep_capture.html I can only hope the story gets more detailed as it continues into the next 16 chapters. Also, I was priviledge to see the new upcoming movie, by these same people, which is 1 hour and 40 minutes, matter of fact, send me your info and I will send you a copy of this new movie coming out. richard SiriusNews
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Post by bhollenegg on May 10, 2011 20:37:39 GMT -5
Camerhon...It is sad to see an outstanding board of keeping the shareholders informed has transformed into a place to launch personal attacks. Thank you for offering me a Moderator position, but due to the tolerance of the intolerant, I must decline this offer, as well as, my membership.
Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by honesty1959 on May 10, 2011 21:40:52 GMT -5
Good Bye bholl and chitz..were really going to miss you over here......NOT!!!
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Post by siriusnews on May 10, 2011 22:11:20 GMT -5
to the board, was it something I said? thought I was pretty fair and pretty much just asked Bob H a question and to see if he would send me his info, since he sent it to someone on Raging Bull??? I guess he does not want to talk? Richard SiriusNews
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Post by honesty1959 on May 10, 2011 23:05:58 GMT -5
No it's not you..... He is not part of (Y)our Team Anti Fryar/Shareholders.......As in Us getting paid/Answers
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Post by wolfbela on May 11, 2011 0:51:31 GMT -5
Hollenegg,
To show how out of touch you are, your phone bill indicates you were on the phone for 2 minutes. I can guarantee you in that 2 minutes you did not talk to anyone of merit and you were probably put on hold and hung up.
Yet you make up more stories and lies. Also, I am sure that if an "investigator" read your posts and responded in two minutes after reading just one post, he probably either had to pick himself off the floor from laughing hysterically or go and seriously medicate himself to try to continue the supposed conversation.
It is high time you realize that your audience grows smaller by the day with the constant deception, while the light of truth is shining brightly on your actions. People aren't buying it anymore, other that the usual 10 suspects. But the general public of CMKX has long grown tired of your BS and has had enough. Give everybody a break.. nobody cares anymore.
Go wait for Atty. Hodges to inform the shareholders.. and stop trying to inform them yourself. I used to feel sorry for you.. Now it has just become a sick, tired display of a person desperate for attention at all costs.
J WB
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Post by jimmyd on May 11, 2011 6:28:34 GMT -5
Bob, First of all, I'm glad to see that you are out of jail...or rehab.
Secondly, I think it is pretty clear to everyone involved that you are FOS and extremely delusional. I think you are an extremely sick individual who hides in a foreign country to avoid having your family institutionalize you. Please STFU and just be a plaintiff. Why can't you do the honorable thing and just stop running your stupid mouth? Other plaintiffs don't have diahrrea of the mouth, like you do...
If you were an honorable person you wouldn't continuously lie about your past or the present events. Any man of honor would tell the truth and back it up with facts. You continuously lie or give false and misleading info. What really bothers me is how much of a wussy you are when somebody questions you. You fold like a cheap suit and delete your account. You sir, are a coward and a fraud!
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Post by wolfbela on May 11, 2011 8:02:20 GMT -5
Bob,
As a final response to you.. nobody cares..
One day you will finally get it..
Your "factual information" is tired and your constant need to share
it just shows that your really don't care about the shareholders.. you
would just stop if you did. When is enough, enough?
The call to PA is inconsequential. I could give you a couple more states to call where when the authorities viewed your writings, they questioned your mental grounding. What is important is that another one of your informed and "accurate at the time" prophecies is falling flat on its face, as usual.
The need to keep "providing" this information to me is a great sign of instability and deep seated problems and your issues are very detrimental to all that are desperately clinging onto hope here.
What I do find interesting is that no one denies our claims that some groups of people, including the company, plaintiffs and others involved with the constant promotion of these predictions, are collecting money or benefiting from these delays and the intentional stroking of the shareholder base, which has gone on for years. This, however, will stop very shortly as the truth and real intent of people such as yourself will be exposed for all to see.
J WB
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