Post by digby on Sept 10, 2007 5:46:34 GMT -5
Acca: I want to touch on some things. I have been away for while, but I am back..lol.. much to the chagrin of some people..lol.
We'll talk about..I guess we'll have to talk this Euroclear and some other things, I guess.
Question: Good evening Acca. What ever happened to that document that was supposed to be signed a few days ago and you were going to come in and tell us about it? Are we any closer to getting paid than we were before?
Acca: Apparently, it has never been signed, yet. So, we are still waiting on that.
Question: How you doing Acca? I was just going to ask you about the document, but since it hasn't been signed yet, have you got any insight though into either what the delay is or whether or not it's in the works or when you might expect something with that document, because it sounded like last week you expected it imminently and obviously something stopped it? So, are we talking about another long wait or is this something that came up and we just need to sit down and let things take its course?
Acca: I think we have to let it take its course and unfortunately, that is the way it is. But, I see something on the horizon....again..to speak of the different exchanges and so on...I am not talking about Euroclear, if you will. I am talking about the AMEX, NYSE and so on. That is something that will leak periodically and there are so many leaks in the past and you actually have to grasp what has been leaked out for 3 years and to be honest with you, you just can't. You just can't do it. There has been so much information that has been thrown out. Whether or not it has been disinformation o r true information is something you have to filter through yourselves and I can't do it for you. And if you believe, you believe and I really can't do it for you. But if you ask me everything is for a purpose and if you have something that leaks and not just recently, but maybe 2 1/2 yrs ago..2 yrs, 2 months and so on you should pay attention to that. You should write it down. Most people don't. Probably 95% of the people don't write it down and don't try to piece it together, but there is a lot of due diligence people in here that do it. So, they do it for you and my hats off to them for that.
I will touch on 3 things tonight. The Lundin issue and Euroclear and so on, and one other issue--as far as claims being lost, who they go to and so on. I will touch on that a little bit later.
Question: Acca, do you remember a few weeks ago you said that if this document did not get signed or if they did not come to an agreement they would be forced. Are we going to expect that or is it down the tubes now?
Acca: No, great question. I see the force going on as we speak and hopefully this coming week you will see what I mean by that. There is going to be a forcing which is....well...let's just put it this way..let's just see the forcing of it. It may be blindsided by these people, so.
Question: Acca, I know you said you were going to talk about the Lundin PR later. Can you talk about this yet? Lundin seems to be going through a transformation and seems like they are wrapping it up pretty rapidly. Is our timing kind of coincided with the way they are wrapping things up with their company? And, did Detroit play this weekend?
Acca: I would say it is coinciding with it. And, yea yeah, they did. You know they did.
Question: Acca, last week or two weeks ago, Judy Cline asked you a question and I wanting a follow-up. Do you have any comments at all to make about the involvement of the International Stock Bank as far as anything that may have to do with us at this point in time?
Acca: No comment at this present time on that topic, no.
Question: In the SEC letter from Rodney Young to the SEC, he mentioned mine brokers and a secret account they had set up at the DTC..clearing through Euroclear. Some of those brokers were brought up in other indictments that had become public. I was wondering, if at all, you can comment on any of them.
Acca: I can't comment on the indictments. I can comment on the transaction that transpired in April of last year in Europe, a little bit. The actual transaction went through in May. There has to be a clearing to the trust fund, if you will. It has to clear and then go into a trust fund. Not a merger.
Touchy subject, Judy. Can you rephrase it just one more time, differently, then I'll answer it.
Judy: Well, the only way I can rephrase it is a lot of those brokers were involved in a lot of nefarious stuff. Do you think that CMKX was cleared through there..umm..that naked short cleared through there? I don't know how they could clear it..they were naked shorting shares...but obviously, there were many other companies that went through those brokerages that were also naked shorted. Do they have to make it good? My thoughts are they would have to make it good.
Acca: Well, obviously, it can be cleared through that. Umm..do they have to make it good? when you say, "they", umm...who are you speaking of?
Judy: The brokers and the clearing agency.
Acca: Absolutely.
See, you have to tuck it way in the back corner there. You have to tuck this. Anything swept under the rug has to be tucked way back in the corner, way back. If have some obscure, maybe members only...blah blah blah blah blah...I won't say exchange. But ah....how should I put this....anyway, if you have something that needs to be, again, swept under the rug, you do it the way you have to do it. You have somebody that will do it where it will not rock the financial world of this great country that we live in. I never said that before, EVER. And you have to understand that it is not like..umm..you are thinking..some big conspiracy or whatever. But it is something that has to be, you know, hush hush and has to be taken care of behind the scenes. So, that's it.
Question: Hi Acca. Good evening. Did European brokers have certs? Actually, do they have certs just like they have master certs here for the brokers?
Acca: My advice to you is listen to the MP3..hahaha. And I am not kidding. See, that is kind of funny. I can't answer that.
Question: Okay. Let me ask you this. Based on some DD and what I have heard, the next two weeks seem to be fairly pivotal as far as opening the doors to us to get paid in the near future. Can you..and I don't care about your dates or anything like that or amounts, but if I was giving you the fact that I think the next 2 weeks is the most pivotal for us, what percent would you probably say or tell me that I was right in looking at these next 14 days or so as being extremely important to us getting paid this month?
Acca: I'd say 100% as being pivotal. Has to be, because of 2 conditions. I won't go into the conditions of it, but has to be pivotal. It is funny how you bring that word up because I don't think in all the years that I've been that somebody has brought that up and stated in a percentage way what I think should be pivotal. And, it is very pivotal.
Question: Okay, and on the assumption that the next two weeks are pivotal, would you say the responsibility lies more with the company or lies more with the other entities that are involved with us to make this happen within 2 weeks?
Acca: It would lie with the other 2 entities, period. Period.
Question: Hey Acca. How are you? Good evening. Do you think Lundin bought us out a while ago and we are just waiting for the naked short...ah..legal crap..to get cleaned up before Lundin can actually distribute and merge, or whatever they are going to do with us? Partial merger. Maybe something. Thanks.
Acca: You know, usually, you are a very naughty girl, usually. And tonight, you are very surreal on your best behavior and I hate the question. Just hate it. Hmm.
Question: You hate it? Does that mean you love it because you hate it? Do you love me and hate the question, or hate the question but love me?..hahaha
Acca: OMG. That is like a 3-part question. Umm..I love the question, but hate it. Let's put it that way. I love you too, baby. You know that.
Question: Acca, can this..whatever has to happen..can this happen very quickly...or...are we talking in the next couple of weeks..whatever needs to happen, can it happen very quickly that we can be paid before the end of September?
Acca: Yes. What has transpired..ah..yesterday, yes it can happen now. Yes.
Question: So something happened yesterday and you're saying we can get paid September now. Okay. Fine. Going back to my...I just don't understand what happened still with Judy. She talked about U.S. brokers and you were talking about they wanted to settle in the back so as not to crash the markets. I would think from what I heard you were referring to Euroclear. My question is: When we called Euroclear, and I know you follow the boards and you know what is being said here. They said flag open for delivery and receipt. Now I don't know if that is something they just leave open, even though we are not sure if any will be revoked.....at one point they close that at all. Question is also, actually, do they have flags open in the U.S. for delivery and receipt as well?
Acca: Okay, I want to make it very clear with you, Ines. Euroclear, I thought was a mineral water I bought the other day at the convenience store. So, I don't even know what you are talking about.
Question: Hey Acca. What's going on tonight. I have a question for you. Back in June...I think it was shareholders of record on the closing date of June 6 with Newmont Mining would receive a dividend distribution on June 28, which got changed to September. Now, shareholders of record on Sept. 6, will receive a dividend on Sept. 28. Do you feel we will be part of the Newmont dividend distribution?
Acca: Do you remember when we formed a corporation? Well, it wasn't really a corporation. It was a limited liability corporation in Nevada. Get rid of that corporation. There you go. That is all I am going to say. I am going to end it here quick. Go ahead, Gr8.
Question: I was just going to ask you. Is it fair to assume now that Tyler is not any problem as far as hurting us as far as getting our money within the next 2 weeks? It's other than that and problem is basically overcome. Would that be fair to say now?
Acca: As we speak right now, I don't think Tyler is a problem right now. No. Absolutely not.
And I am trying to read the scroll too. The stops are not out now, no. The stops would be in the broad range of the market, they're not out. They would not be out for this. That is why it's progressing on a different exchange and so on. So, I am not going to answer about stops about our market pertaining to this. Anybody else, because I am about ready to head out.
Question: You said something happened yesterday and hiker said that Tyler is possibly not a problem. Is Tyler one of the problems why we didn't get the money yet? Is the Tyler in the mix of things that has to be cleared up for us to get paid?...maybe not The major , but maybe one of the things we have to go over to get our payment.
Acca: Lundin is not a problem. I am sorry. How should I state that? Is that a Freudian slip? LOL Is that how I should state it? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I should never have said that. Okay, I am going to leave it at that. Ines asked me about Tyler, Texas if they're, you know...ugh. I am going to leave it at that. But I am going to field these questions and I will have a closing statement on that(something from the scroll he referred to, I believe).
Question: When you closing up now, based on what you know to be fact tonight. Can you leave us with some sort of definitive idea in your mind where we stand now as far as looking for some sort of resolution before the end of the month?
Acca: Yes, I will. Let bemoney and badbass go then I will, Gr8. I will touch on that.
Question: Okay, Acca. Ravenpeaches had this question out here and I was just concerned and I wanted to know whether the meeting with the Feds...what does she have there..she has the meeting with the Feds and ah..whatever this meeting is. I can't get it all right now(the scroll was moving too quickly at the time for him to read it all). But, whatever this meeting is that she is referring to on the 19th, is it..what kind of bearing does it have on us getting paid? Does that really have any bearing or do we need to...then he read from the scroll...
does it have any bearing on us or do we have to wait before we can be paid, actually at all?
((10:25 PM) slhicks2: (10:23 PM) Ravenpeaches: My Question.... is: Are the stops out now.... are we cleared to be paid...now.... Is there anyone in the way that is blocking our payment at this present time.... Are we waiting for the Fed to meet with Congress on Sept 19th?)
Acca: It has no bearing pertaining to this. No. Absolutely not.
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Question: A couple of years ago...between 2 1/2-3 yrs ago at one of the races, Urban and the Lundin group..there was a lot of rumors going around at time that there was going to be a big announcement about a joining of forces between Lundin and CMKX. That is what was going around and that was anticipated. This was about the time when the SEC had stepped in and took control of everything. Is it pretty fair to say now that what was going to be announced and was being put together and being much culminated back then..probably 2 1/2 yrs ago or longer...is that the point that we're anticipating will finally come to fruition now, and it started all the way back then and was put on hold while all this other BS had to be dealt with and cleared up?
Acca: That's a great question because the only way the Lucas group could get into the area that we all know is through us. Now, it was way way back, before the party and so on. It was all set up. Roger Glenn, Stoecklein..everybody was involved. Lucas, Adolf..all of them were involved and what you have to understand is that that's when the balloons were going to drop(party of Oct. 2004). The SEC stepped in and now, it is all taken care of. The Lundin Mining Group....there was one way that they could get into that region, if you will, and that was the only way--through Casavant. There you go. I shouldn't even take any more questions. I am spent, burnt. I said more than I have in a long time and there it is. Lundin needed that. They needed to come into here. They were running out of claims in other areas of the world and they knew how important that area was. So, there you go. Go ahead Oldcoal. That's it. I've got to go.
Question: Thanks Acca. Thanks for finishing off with me. Don't take offense, please. Just from what you've heard and what you have been listening to and what not...how likely is this to happen..you know..for example, whatever he is asking for..a payoff and stuff..as compared to previous sure things? Thanks a lot for coming in.
Acca: Thank you. I always compare it to Taser and this will blow the lid off that. So, you know..I love comparing it to Taser and you know..with these great people involved..they wanted this property, if you will...extremely, extremely bad and they got it. But it took a lot of things to get to this point. It took incredible, incredible red tape through governments and so on and you know..it was insane. It still is and the the great people in here. You just sit back and hopefully you will have a sane mind after all of this, especially when it hits. That is all I care about, because it is just crazy. It is the most crazy thing you will ever see. And, financially it is and mentally. So, that is all I have to say on that.
Question: So, when this thing comes to fruition or not..to say not...then, where do we go?
Acca: It will. There is no "not". It will.
Question: Did Lundin put up the 10 million dollars to give SGGM, back then?
Acca: I can't answer that. Great question. I can't answer that, Silver.
Silver: Thank you. Thank you. And you know I love you. I am going to say, good night, to you. So, good night.
Question: Hey Acca. Do you think that if we are part of the Lundin group, do you think we will get some kind of official PR stating from Lundin there is some sort of takeover/merger with Urban Casavant or CMKM before they start trading on the NYSE or do you think that will stay quiet?
Acca: No. It has to stay quiet. The monies will trickle in without that PR, then after that..after the ROI is realized, then you can have a tie-in with that...what you just mentioned. I am not going to mention the company, but, yes.
Question: At this point, has it come to your attention in any way that any of the funds, or the monies destined for us, have moved or been/have some activity? In otherwords, this particular point or is everything still dormant as far as the trusts are concerned, as far as you know. I don't care where they went or what they are doing. I am just asking whether or not it has got to the point where there is movement in our money, toward the final destination of us.
Acca: It's not, per se, dormant. It's a heavy weight that had to make the first move and they made it a while ago and they fulfilled their obligations. So, having said that, we can go forward now. And the funds can be released. This is a heavy-weight. This is not Newmont. This is not Shore Gold. You know, those are sisters of the poor compared to this conglomerate. So, we can move forward now. Yes. Go ahead TBeezley.
Question: Yeah, Acca, I hope you didn't just answer my question..lol. But the question I had was..umm..has this been simply a matter of money and lawsuits that has been holding us up or do you think that there's another entity or problem/roadblock that has been holding us up that we haven't been able to foresee? That is part one(question) and part two: if it is money that has been the primary hang up, haven't there been other interested parties, such as Lundin or any of the other big whale investors that we've heard about..going back to Willy' room, that might have been able to take up a tag day and throw a few dollars at the problem and make it go away sooner?
Acca: No, no. It could never happen that way. I agree with entities as far as money. Financially, it was never a problem. I believe it was certain entities--governments, if you will. But financially, it was never a problem, no. Absolutely not. There was enough entities out there with deep pockets that were willing to, but you had to have somebody come to the table and look at the short, look at what was going on, look at the way it was run. It may have been run not the way they wanted it to be run, YET. But a certain individual owned an abundant claims and so on. It was never about money. No, I don't believe that.
Question: Acca, is there any other PR or document that we should be looking for at this point?
Acca: At this present time, there will be one more to follow what just happened. The one PR I said to look for already happened. One more that will mention 4 letters will happen.
Question: Acca, I just thought of something else. If Lundin was interested in one of our commodities, which one would it be? Diamonds, uranium, zinc, copper, oil? Wanna pick one?
Acca: They are interested in anything that will make them money. Let's put it that way. So, to pick one? No.
Question: Okay, Acca. I just wanted to pass by something. I asked you about the funds and I understood your answer..that some big gorilla had to stand there and release it. Okay, what about whether the funds are in a trust or trusts or whether we are talking about separate monies in trusts then funds coming from other entities that are destined to come to us as part of any sort of final deal, merger, buyout or whatever you want to call it. Are we talking about two different sources of money now..one funds from an entity and other funds from a trust? Are they two separate issues and are both, basically, at a point now where they can be released?
Acca: Worry about one source and one source only. Eventually there will be another source that will distribute funds, but to jump the gun and say there's more than one source--multiple, plural sources, just worry about the one source and then we'll go from there. And the new people will take care of the other distributions and so on.
Question: Okay, based on that, are we still basically talking about the funds that are available ..the funds we are talking about, available from the Trusts that are set aside for us? That's basically what we are talking about now as any source of payout to us in the near term. Is that what we are talking about..the monies in the Trust?
Acca: Yes, that is separate. That is absolutely separate from anything that..ah..if we did merge. The actual Trust, where the money is sitting, came from a sale, okay? That is not a merge. After that, then the floodgates open and that is up to the new entity.
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We'll talk about..I guess we'll have to talk this Euroclear and some other things, I guess.
Question: Good evening Acca. What ever happened to that document that was supposed to be signed a few days ago and you were going to come in and tell us about it? Are we any closer to getting paid than we were before?
Acca: Apparently, it has never been signed, yet. So, we are still waiting on that.
Question: How you doing Acca? I was just going to ask you about the document, but since it hasn't been signed yet, have you got any insight though into either what the delay is or whether or not it's in the works or when you might expect something with that document, because it sounded like last week you expected it imminently and obviously something stopped it? So, are we talking about another long wait or is this something that came up and we just need to sit down and let things take its course?
Acca: I think we have to let it take its course and unfortunately, that is the way it is. But, I see something on the horizon....again..to speak of the different exchanges and so on...I am not talking about Euroclear, if you will. I am talking about the AMEX, NYSE and so on. That is something that will leak periodically and there are so many leaks in the past and you actually have to grasp what has been leaked out for 3 years and to be honest with you, you just can't. You just can't do it. There has been so much information that has been thrown out. Whether or not it has been disinformation o r true information is something you have to filter through yourselves and I can't do it for you. And if you believe, you believe and I really can't do it for you. But if you ask me everything is for a purpose and if you have something that leaks and not just recently, but maybe 2 1/2 yrs ago..2 yrs, 2 months and so on you should pay attention to that. You should write it down. Most people don't. Probably 95% of the people don't write it down and don't try to piece it together, but there is a lot of due diligence people in here that do it. So, they do it for you and my hats off to them for that.
I will touch on 3 things tonight. The Lundin issue and Euroclear and so on, and one other issue--as far as claims being lost, who they go to and so on. I will touch on that a little bit later.
Question: Acca, do you remember a few weeks ago you said that if this document did not get signed or if they did not come to an agreement they would be forced. Are we going to expect that or is it down the tubes now?
Acca: No, great question. I see the force going on as we speak and hopefully this coming week you will see what I mean by that. There is going to be a forcing which is....well...let's just put it this way..let's just see the forcing of it. It may be blindsided by these people, so.
Question: Acca, I know you said you were going to talk about the Lundin PR later. Can you talk about this yet? Lundin seems to be going through a transformation and seems like they are wrapping it up pretty rapidly. Is our timing kind of coincided with the way they are wrapping things up with their company? And, did Detroit play this weekend?
Acca: I would say it is coinciding with it. And, yea yeah, they did. You know they did.
Question: Acca, last week or two weeks ago, Judy Cline asked you a question and I wanting a follow-up. Do you have any comments at all to make about the involvement of the International Stock Bank as far as anything that may have to do with us at this point in time?
Acca: No comment at this present time on that topic, no.
Question: In the SEC letter from Rodney Young to the SEC, he mentioned mine brokers and a secret account they had set up at the DTC..clearing through Euroclear. Some of those brokers were brought up in other indictments that had become public. I was wondering, if at all, you can comment on any of them.
Acca: I can't comment on the indictments. I can comment on the transaction that transpired in April of last year in Europe, a little bit. The actual transaction went through in May. There has to be a clearing to the trust fund, if you will. It has to clear and then go into a trust fund. Not a merger.
Touchy subject, Judy. Can you rephrase it just one more time, differently, then I'll answer it.
Judy: Well, the only way I can rephrase it is a lot of those brokers were involved in a lot of nefarious stuff. Do you think that CMKX was cleared through there..umm..that naked short cleared through there? I don't know how they could clear it..they were naked shorting shares...but obviously, there were many other companies that went through those brokerages that were also naked shorted. Do they have to make it good? My thoughts are they would have to make it good.
Acca: Well, obviously, it can be cleared through that. Umm..do they have to make it good? when you say, "they", umm...who are you speaking of?
Judy: The brokers and the clearing agency.
Acca: Absolutely.
See, you have to tuck it way in the back corner there. You have to tuck this. Anything swept under the rug has to be tucked way back in the corner, way back. If have some obscure, maybe members only...blah blah blah blah blah...I won't say exchange. But ah....how should I put this....anyway, if you have something that needs to be, again, swept under the rug, you do it the way you have to do it. You have somebody that will do it where it will not rock the financial world of this great country that we live in. I never said that before, EVER. And you have to understand that it is not like..umm..you are thinking..some big conspiracy or whatever. But it is something that has to be, you know, hush hush and has to be taken care of behind the scenes. So, that's it.
Question: Hi Acca. Good evening. Did European brokers have certs? Actually, do they have certs just like they have master certs here for the brokers?
Acca: My advice to you is listen to the MP3..hahaha. And I am not kidding. See, that is kind of funny. I can't answer that.
Question: Okay. Let me ask you this. Based on some DD and what I have heard, the next two weeks seem to be fairly pivotal as far as opening the doors to us to get paid in the near future. Can you..and I don't care about your dates or anything like that or amounts, but if I was giving you the fact that I think the next 2 weeks is the most pivotal for us, what percent would you probably say or tell me that I was right in looking at these next 14 days or so as being extremely important to us getting paid this month?
Acca: I'd say 100% as being pivotal. Has to be, because of 2 conditions. I won't go into the conditions of it, but has to be pivotal. It is funny how you bring that word up because I don't think in all the years that I've been that somebody has brought that up and stated in a percentage way what I think should be pivotal. And, it is very pivotal.
Question: Okay, and on the assumption that the next two weeks are pivotal, would you say the responsibility lies more with the company or lies more with the other entities that are involved with us to make this happen within 2 weeks?
Acca: It would lie with the other 2 entities, period. Period.
Question: Hey Acca. How are you? Good evening. Do you think Lundin bought us out a while ago and we are just waiting for the naked short...ah..legal crap..to get cleaned up before Lundin can actually distribute and merge, or whatever they are going to do with us? Partial merger. Maybe something. Thanks.
Acca: You know, usually, you are a very naughty girl, usually. And tonight, you are very surreal on your best behavior and I hate the question. Just hate it. Hmm.
Question: You hate it? Does that mean you love it because you hate it? Do you love me and hate the question, or hate the question but love me?..hahaha
Acca: OMG. That is like a 3-part question. Umm..I love the question, but hate it. Let's put it that way. I love you too, baby. You know that.
Question: Acca, can this..whatever has to happen..can this happen very quickly...or...are we talking in the next couple of weeks..whatever needs to happen, can it happen very quickly that we can be paid before the end of September?
Acca: Yes. What has transpired..ah..yesterday, yes it can happen now. Yes.
Question: So something happened yesterday and you're saying we can get paid September now. Okay. Fine. Going back to my...I just don't understand what happened still with Judy. She talked about U.S. brokers and you were talking about they wanted to settle in the back so as not to crash the markets. I would think from what I heard you were referring to Euroclear. My question is: When we called Euroclear, and I know you follow the boards and you know what is being said here. They said flag open for delivery and receipt. Now I don't know if that is something they just leave open, even though we are not sure if any will be revoked.....at one point they close that at all. Question is also, actually, do they have flags open in the U.S. for delivery and receipt as well?
Acca: Okay, I want to make it very clear with you, Ines. Euroclear, I thought was a mineral water I bought the other day at the convenience store. So, I don't even know what you are talking about.
Question: Hey Acca. What's going on tonight. I have a question for you. Back in June...I think it was shareholders of record on the closing date of June 6 with Newmont Mining would receive a dividend distribution on June 28, which got changed to September. Now, shareholders of record on Sept. 6, will receive a dividend on Sept. 28. Do you feel we will be part of the Newmont dividend distribution?
Acca: Do you remember when we formed a corporation? Well, it wasn't really a corporation. It was a limited liability corporation in Nevada. Get rid of that corporation. There you go. That is all I am going to say. I am going to end it here quick. Go ahead, Gr8.
Question: I was just going to ask you. Is it fair to assume now that Tyler is not any problem as far as hurting us as far as getting our money within the next 2 weeks? It's other than that and problem is basically overcome. Would that be fair to say now?
Acca: As we speak right now, I don't think Tyler is a problem right now. No. Absolutely not.
And I am trying to read the scroll too. The stops are not out now, no. The stops would be in the broad range of the market, they're not out. They would not be out for this. That is why it's progressing on a different exchange and so on. So, I am not going to answer about stops about our market pertaining to this. Anybody else, because I am about ready to head out.
Question: You said something happened yesterday and hiker said that Tyler is possibly not a problem. Is Tyler one of the problems why we didn't get the money yet? Is the Tyler in the mix of things that has to be cleared up for us to get paid?...maybe not The major , but maybe one of the things we have to go over to get our payment.
Acca: Lundin is not a problem. I am sorry. How should I state that? Is that a Freudian slip? LOL Is that how I should state it? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I should never have said that. Okay, I am going to leave it at that. Ines asked me about Tyler, Texas if they're, you know...ugh. I am going to leave it at that. But I am going to field these questions and I will have a closing statement on that(something from the scroll he referred to, I believe).
Question: When you closing up now, based on what you know to be fact tonight. Can you leave us with some sort of definitive idea in your mind where we stand now as far as looking for some sort of resolution before the end of the month?
Acca: Yes, I will. Let bemoney and badbass go then I will, Gr8. I will touch on that.
Question: Okay, Acca. Ravenpeaches had this question out here and I was just concerned and I wanted to know whether the meeting with the Feds...what does she have there..she has the meeting with the Feds and ah..whatever this meeting is. I can't get it all right now(the scroll was moving too quickly at the time for him to read it all). But, whatever this meeting is that she is referring to on the 19th, is it..what kind of bearing does it have on us getting paid? Does that really have any bearing or do we need to...then he read from the scroll...
does it have any bearing on us or do we have to wait before we can be paid, actually at all?
((10:25 PM) slhicks2: (10:23 PM) Ravenpeaches: My Question.... is: Are the stops out now.... are we cleared to be paid...now.... Is there anyone in the way that is blocking our payment at this present time.... Are we waiting for the Fed to meet with Congress on Sept 19th?)
Acca: It has no bearing pertaining to this. No. Absolutely not.
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Question: A couple of years ago...between 2 1/2-3 yrs ago at one of the races, Urban and the Lundin group..there was a lot of rumors going around at time that there was going to be a big announcement about a joining of forces between Lundin and CMKX. That is what was going around and that was anticipated. This was about the time when the SEC had stepped in and took control of everything. Is it pretty fair to say now that what was going to be announced and was being put together and being much culminated back then..probably 2 1/2 yrs ago or longer...is that the point that we're anticipating will finally come to fruition now, and it started all the way back then and was put on hold while all this other BS had to be dealt with and cleared up?
Acca: That's a great question because the only way the Lucas group could get into the area that we all know is through us. Now, it was way way back, before the party and so on. It was all set up. Roger Glenn, Stoecklein..everybody was involved. Lucas, Adolf..all of them were involved and what you have to understand is that that's when the balloons were going to drop(party of Oct. 2004). The SEC stepped in and now, it is all taken care of. The Lundin Mining Group....there was one way that they could get into that region, if you will, and that was the only way--through Casavant. There you go. I shouldn't even take any more questions. I am spent, burnt. I said more than I have in a long time and there it is. Lundin needed that. They needed to come into here. They were running out of claims in other areas of the world and they knew how important that area was. So, there you go. Go ahead Oldcoal. That's it. I've got to go.
Question: Thanks Acca. Thanks for finishing off with me. Don't take offense, please. Just from what you've heard and what you have been listening to and what not...how likely is this to happen..you know..for example, whatever he is asking for..a payoff and stuff..as compared to previous sure things? Thanks a lot for coming in.
Acca: Thank you. I always compare it to Taser and this will blow the lid off that. So, you know..I love comparing it to Taser and you know..with these great people involved..they wanted this property, if you will...extremely, extremely bad and they got it. But it took a lot of things to get to this point. It took incredible, incredible red tape through governments and so on and you know..it was insane. It still is and the the great people in here. You just sit back and hopefully you will have a sane mind after all of this, especially when it hits. That is all I care about, because it is just crazy. It is the most crazy thing you will ever see. And, financially it is and mentally. So, that is all I have to say on that.
Question: So, when this thing comes to fruition or not..to say not...then, where do we go?
Acca: It will. There is no "not". It will.
Question: Did Lundin put up the 10 million dollars to give SGGM, back then?
Acca: I can't answer that. Great question. I can't answer that, Silver.
Silver: Thank you. Thank you. And you know I love you. I am going to say, good night, to you. So, good night.
Question: Hey Acca. Do you think that if we are part of the Lundin group, do you think we will get some kind of official PR stating from Lundin there is some sort of takeover/merger with Urban Casavant or CMKM before they start trading on the NYSE or do you think that will stay quiet?
Acca: No. It has to stay quiet. The monies will trickle in without that PR, then after that..after the ROI is realized, then you can have a tie-in with that...what you just mentioned. I am not going to mention the company, but, yes.
Question: At this point, has it come to your attention in any way that any of the funds, or the monies destined for us, have moved or been/have some activity? In otherwords, this particular point or is everything still dormant as far as the trusts are concerned, as far as you know. I don't care where they went or what they are doing. I am just asking whether or not it has got to the point where there is movement in our money, toward the final destination of us.
Acca: It's not, per se, dormant. It's a heavy weight that had to make the first move and they made it a while ago and they fulfilled their obligations. So, having said that, we can go forward now. And the funds can be released. This is a heavy-weight. This is not Newmont. This is not Shore Gold. You know, those are sisters of the poor compared to this conglomerate. So, we can move forward now. Yes. Go ahead TBeezley.
Question: Yeah, Acca, I hope you didn't just answer my question..lol. But the question I had was..umm..has this been simply a matter of money and lawsuits that has been holding us up or do you think that there's another entity or problem/roadblock that has been holding us up that we haven't been able to foresee? That is part one(question) and part two: if it is money that has been the primary hang up, haven't there been other interested parties, such as Lundin or any of the other big whale investors that we've heard about..going back to Willy' room, that might have been able to take up a tag day and throw a few dollars at the problem and make it go away sooner?
Acca: No, no. It could never happen that way. I agree with entities as far as money. Financially, it was never a problem. I believe it was certain entities--governments, if you will. But financially, it was never a problem, no. Absolutely not. There was enough entities out there with deep pockets that were willing to, but you had to have somebody come to the table and look at the short, look at what was going on, look at the way it was run. It may have been run not the way they wanted it to be run, YET. But a certain individual owned an abundant claims and so on. It was never about money. No, I don't believe that.
Question: Acca, is there any other PR or document that we should be looking for at this point?
Acca: At this present time, there will be one more to follow what just happened. The one PR I said to look for already happened. One more that will mention 4 letters will happen.
Question: Acca, I just thought of something else. If Lundin was interested in one of our commodities, which one would it be? Diamonds, uranium, zinc, copper, oil? Wanna pick one?
Acca: They are interested in anything that will make them money. Let's put it that way. So, to pick one? No.
Question: Okay, Acca. I just wanted to pass by something. I asked you about the funds and I understood your answer..that some big gorilla had to stand there and release it. Okay, what about whether the funds are in a trust or trusts or whether we are talking about separate monies in trusts then funds coming from other entities that are destined to come to us as part of any sort of final deal, merger, buyout or whatever you want to call it. Are we talking about two different sources of money now..one funds from an entity and other funds from a trust? Are they two separate issues and are both, basically, at a point now where they can be released?
Acca: Worry about one source and one source only. Eventually there will be another source that will distribute funds, but to jump the gun and say there's more than one source--multiple, plural sources, just worry about the one source and then we'll go from there. And the new people will take care of the other distributions and so on.
Question: Okay, based on that, are we still basically talking about the funds that are available ..the funds we are talking about, available from the Trusts that are set aside for us? That's basically what we are talking about now as any source of payout to us in the near term. Is that what we are talking about..the monies in the Trust?
Acca: Yes, that is separate. That is absolutely separate from anything that..ah..if we did merge. The actual Trust, where the money is sitting, came from a sale, okay? That is not a merge. After that, then the floodgates open and that is up to the new entity.
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