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Post by sandi66 on Aug 12, 2010 5:51:25 GMT -5
Re: It's Been A  ? * (Acca related posts) « Reply #12209 Yesterday at 7:20pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yesterday at 2:54pm, ines wrote:ok.... how exciting is acca visit going to be now.. depends on whether we just got rug pulled under us again. August 11, 2009 posted by procmkm Robert Maheu With Yet Another Cut-out. Stay Grounded, Obama Theories..............Please!! And What Are The Bad Guys Saying? Well What HH Said "A No-Good Son Of A Biitch Who Robbed Me Blind" millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=19007&page=611 |
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Post by sandi66 on Aug 12, 2010 5:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by misisipiflyer on Aug 13, 2010 6:33:28 GMT -5
OK..I'm still watching for and updating the Wyatt transcript as PJ types and posts but this came up as well.... so here it is... even though it is Acca...lol....
Re: ALL PALTALK UPDATES HERE..
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The following are jacbert's recap of Acca in the CMKX Information Paltalk Room:
(10:22 PM) jacbert: Acca international room
Who wants to get paid?
Come Monday evening…insane! Who parties on Monday CMKX!
Coach, Hello! Let it hang out tonight
Do you want my first question to be nice!
Hey, a lot of rumor about NDA…Are you still on an NDA
Acca, great question!
(10:23 PM) jacbert: The NDA is over, but some things I won’t talk about
Per Al, and Urban, but can talk about some.
Let it lose…great night in CMKX history!
Royal, How much and when…best guess
Acca
How much no comment
(10:23 PM) tigerherb: The Chinese bought claims and Urban put the money in a trust. He was told not to pay out the dividend because of the sting. One payment from multiple trusts. Three trusts are all rolled into one, the claims, SEC Payment and one other. ACCA made it a point to say Al will only be making the announcement of ER and then he's gone and the trustees will take over.
(10:23 PM) jacbert: Can you tell us about the last conversation with Al
Acca, Al is very positive, and says Monday…told me other things, but asked me not to say. The things I can’t talk about INSANE we talked for 30 minutes. He told me to tell you he is very positive…very positive!
He said, Monday, if it comes out…he is done!
(10:24 PM) jacbert: Some of the things he told me are unbelievable! However, it is believable!
Coach, when Monday come are we still on for 54. or look somewhere else
Acca, I’m straight shooting this Monday, you have to understand who he is. He is hoping, and he has proof…he has a source………..
Was the lawsuit necessary?
Acca, he isn’t going to refile!
(10:24 PM) jacbert: Do you think we’ll get a packet…?
Acca, Al said, package or plastic, I can’t say anything else he told me.
Thanks for coming…how are we going to get notified…morning afternoon, evening?
Acca, Al will announce ER, and that will be it for him
(10:24 PM) jacbert: Crunchy, We’ve heard different rumors on payment…how many payments?
Acca, one payment multiple trust, and you have to understand that
The payment from Chinese will be combined with what Al is doing! I can’t make it more clear that that.
There is no CMKX bank, and there isn’t a banker aware of the funds being moved!
(10:25 PM) jacbert: No banker in Oklahoma!
Coach will the TA be involved with notification or payment notification?
Acca, Yes, the TA will be involved
Is it possible because the trust was so big the SEC didn’t have to pay anything?
Acca, False!
Pongo, there has been a lot of contervese…I want to say ty for keeping the shareholder base together.
(10:25 PM) jacbert: Acca Pongo ty, love to hear you speak…I actually look forward to it. You’re a great guy. Positive thoughts ty
I love the guy! Just his voice! Ty
Coach, is Al going to have trouble combining these payments, and has that been negotiated
Acca, if anything it will be the SEC, especially the Chinese…they’re pz’d off right now!
(10:26 PM) jacbert: Crunchy statement people in the room…please do not call the TA with questions
Now…Will there be any instruction for us to safely handle our money, and where to move it?
Acca, my understanding is no, it is the responsibility of the shareholder.
And please do not contact the TA!
(10:26 PM) jacbert: acbert, will there be RR
Acca, yes, l don’t give financial advice that is up to the individual.
Wondering, if you can talk about the share count and where it is at?
Acca, great question way north of 622
Are we good with deli shares, and did you pick some up.
Acca, We are good with deli shares, and I don’t need more
Do we have to sign a NDA,
(10:26 PM) jacbert: Acca, Yes! Who knows if it is legal!
Coach, with the announcement coming Monday, I take it you have heard of the Maheu recordings when they were talking to the brokerage housed…Does Al have them?
Acca, Absolutely he has them and transcripts from way back, it is just a matter of when.
(10:26 PM) jacbert: I was not going to give one date. Then I talked to Al.
Al has the video of it…do you think IBM…think about it. It is a joke to even think about. You have these hedge funds meeting with IBM…then the depends come out!
You’re blessed!
All the Criminal crap that comes out…the SEC turns there heads
Example FFGO it is criminal!
(10:27 PM) jacbert: It was a cash…guess what no it isn’t!
Jacbert, After ER how long, before cash in hand
Acca great question, and no…Al doesn’t even know!
Where all good!
Is it still 622 that we will get paid on?
Acca, The SEC will pay on bonified
Chinese acquisition
(10:27 PM) jacbert: I don’t want to give out the actual payment out
I would imagine it is more that you’re thinking. It isn’t tramp numbers, or acca numbers, but close to Acca numbers.
Shoregold has nothing to do with CMKX
NO share limit
(10:27 PM) jacbert: Gosh, I’m very serious about this question, because I had a serious surgery. I gave my shares to my children, so I changed them…are my kids still bonified?
Acca, Absolutely! I wish I was your kid! Wow!
Why are the Chinese mad?
Acca, I can’t answer that!
(10:28 PM) jacbert: Coach, has the trustee been given the ER, then it goes to Al?
Acca, Great question, and Yes!
(Missed the professor comment…sorry!)
Crunchy, will CIM come into play?
Acca, some people were stripped of their CIM…
(10:28 PM) jacbert: Acca, some people were stripped of their CIM…
So they stripped these stocks, and what happens to them poof…
NO!
Tiger, how many people above al and who do the represent
Acca, Above Al…NONE!
(10:28 PM) jacbert: Love you guys…very good room keep the faith, and look for Monday!
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Post by misisipiflyer on Aug 13, 2010 6:34:30 GMT -5
This is a recap of Wyatt who came into the CMKX Information Paltalk Room tonight(after Acca spoke).
I will be continuing to add to this post as I type it up. When finished, I will write at the end, "EOM", so that you will know the recap is complete.
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Q: So, ultimately we are waiting on the trusts that pays Cottrell for ER then we will hear something on CMKM, correct?
Wyatt: The way it works, Mike Cottrell is the last to be paid. Lindell Bonney is his Paymaster. So, if the last guy is to be paid, then we get paid. Al has never told me who our Paymaster is or who our Trustee is. He always refers back to Cottrell and Bonney. I think he keeps that information to himself so that we don't get those guys names out there and bombard them with telephone calls asking them questions too. The following is that if Cottrell has been paid and he has access then that means CMKX has been paid and our trustee has access.
Our money has been there since 2006. It has been sitting there. But, it's not contingent upon Cottrell being paid. We got swept into the global settlements. So when all the global settlements get paid, that is when we get paid. We're just using Cottrell as a gage. He is the last one to be paid, that means we've been paid.
Q: Acca also said there would not be an amendment to the lawsuit.
Wyatt: I don't know. We have to wait until Monday. If we are paid then no amendment. If no money, that will be Al's decision, Al's call if he is going to file it or if he is going to wait. Everything is based upon information he has been given. As far as Monday, there is no specific time zone. If come to the end of the day, if we don't have it, that's it.
Q: And if we are successful at the bank tomorrow, we could get ER, correct?
Wyatt: That is correct, Jacbert. I am sure Al has other sources than Bonney and Cottrell. That is just who he refers us to use. I can assure you of that.
Q: I Assume that if Bonney was successful today, seeing what time it is on the east coast, Al could already know tonight what is
Wyatt: They do all the transfers after banking hours due the the sheer volume of money and amount of money. Tomorrow is the earliest we could know if something is successful or not.
Q: Do you suppose perhaps if our accounts at the TA would show an amount when ER arrives?
Wyatt: No. Again, Economic Receipt is when the Trusteehas control of the money. Then it will take the trustee time to distribute it to all of our accounts. So, that is why once Al announces ER then the Trustee, Al believes, within 48 hrs. will make an announcement. In that announcement, maybe a package with instructions on how to collect your money or whatever. We just have to wait and see. We don't know what is going to happen after that. It is just that Economic Receipt means the Trustee has the money and then the Trustee is bound to distribute the funds immediately.
Q: Do you have any knowledge of packets being staged at a central location or possibly Post Office, UPS or some place like that--just waiting for the word to send them out?
Wyatt: No, Tiger I don't. It makes sense to me, it's logical that the Trustee can't hold the money for very long. He has to release it immediately. We have been wating for this money for 6 plus years. It would make sense to me that has taken place. The fact that we got a Transfer Agent and we were able to transfer shares tells me that they are doing house keeping. It seems logical and good business sense to me that they would, but as far as having knowledge of it actually being done, no.
Q: Do you think the Transfer Agent will have anything to do with tranfering the money or will they just be there to notify us, possibly, of what is taking place?
Wyatt: I really have no idea. I haven't really thought that far ahead. I was told that our Transfer Online, Inc was owned by Broadridge. I haven't been able to verify that myself. It is possible. I really am just focused on Economic Receipt.
Q: I think on the website, it says something about being owned by Broadridge.
Wyatt: They are a big company. You can even look at Transfer Online, Inc and see how many companies they service. They are a one-top shop. They can handle anything. And that is another thing. This is not going to be a dividend. This is a "distribution of assets". The way Al explained it to me is because it is the "winding up of the company and a distribution of its assets" that is why it will NOT be taxable.
Q: That is pleasant.
Q: That's kewl!
Q: Does anyone know what the standard distribution of (?) Anybody look into that?
Wyatt: That is my understanding. State or Federal.
Q: Thanks for clearing that up tonight.
Q: Can you verify one more time who the Trustee is?
Wyatt: I have no idea who the Trustee is.
Q: According to a document I read on the proboards, I believe it was a letter to The Honorable George Osborne of the UK. Mr. Hodges explains to him the situation and names him as the new Paymaster for replacing Lindell Bonney. Is there any truth to that or do you have an opinion on that or is it canceled.
Wyatt: He was asking to replace Bonney for Michael Cottrell, not for CMKX. He was not the Paymaster for CMKX, but for Michael Cottrell.
Q: Since Acca spoke with Al and he would not reveal any PPS, but I read somewhere where Al said to refer back to the complaint. Do you think it is going to be the same kind of PPS that was reported to us earlier--the big $6__?Do you think that is something we should think about or should we toss that away?
Wyatt: Well, that is what I am looking for. It's kind of hard to throw a number out there like that and then come back and tell people, 'oh no no no, we made a mistake'. That was a complaint--a legal document filed in Federal Court that basing it on 622 billion shares and 3.87 Trillion Dollars to distribute. That is a little over $6 per share. That is what I've got my eyes on.
Q: Could you go back over the part about musicman only getting 10% of the money, because he has been such an irritant over the last 6 yrs. of wanting to know where his money is?
Wyatt: They've been telling him where his money is. They have been telling him it is at the DTCC and in a couple of other Trusts. They know where his money is. It is up to him to go get it.
Q: Musicman, just go down there and put on your Lindell Bonney disguise and ask, "where's my money?"
Q: Thank you, Wyatt, for verifying Lindell Bonney as a real individual. Was he associated with Bank of America and that incident that happened down there with Cheney that was reported by World Reports? I would just ike to clear that up.
Wyatt: Can you repeat that, tokenjo?
Q: Lindell Bonney was with Bank of America, correct?
Wyatt: No, I don't think he was ever with BoA. He was former CIA guy. He was one of the guys who helped move the Rothschild's money out of the U.S. and into Asia. He is pretty good at the money stuff, but no, he was never with BoA
Q: Lindell Bonney was with Bank of America, correct?
Wyatt: No, I don't think he was ever with BoA. He was former CIA guy. He was one of the guys who helped move the Rothschild's money out of the U.S. and into Asia. He is pretty good at the money stuff, but no, he was never with BoA. He has been at BoA to get this done a couple of times, but I don't think he was ever employed there.
Q: (in audible)
Wyatt: The whole thing about the facts is, this is in my opinion, based upon a conversation I had with Al while coming back to the courthouse that this was the "winding up of the company and the distribution of its assets" and therefore the legal distribution of assets that there would be no taxes. I even had a conversation with Al, probably back in February, where I offered to talk to Arnold Schwarzenegger to see if he could get some help for us in getting the money released. I played golf with him a few times and thought that if we are going to pay taxes with all of the money we have here and with all of the big shareholders in California, the taxes alone would bailout the state of California. Al told me then that there would be no taxes. So, based on conversations with Al, I do not believe there will be any taxes.
Q: Can you give us a round about figure, in your opinion, on how confident Al Hodges is in Economic Receipt in the near future?
Wyatt: He is very confident. Like I said, the money is at the bank. We have been here 25-50 times. We've been this close and something has always happened. So, please keep that in mind. It ain't over til it's over and they have access to it. The way Al explained it is when we started out, this thing was as big as his office. Now it is down to the size of a peep hole. It surrounded everybody; everybody seems to be on board; there is international pressure to get it done. So, it is a 50-50 shot. We just sit and hope it gets done in time.
Q: Wyatt, when you played golf with Arnold Schwarzenegger, did you let him win?
Wyatt: I didn't have to let him win. I don't play golf. I drive the golf cart, drink the beer and get everyone else a beer. I don't play golf well enough to let him win.
Q: Can you give any clarification of how we have been here 25 to 50 times. What is the actual thing that puts a snag in it every time. Is it some of the things that we have heard from World Reports that the President says, 'do not want to let it go' .. is it that type of thing or is it some other thing we have not really been told for sure what it is?
Wyatt: Every time it has been in the World Report, that is what happened and many times in between where we haven't been told. Or, that is, the shareholders haven't been told. It has been that everyone has put their hand in the cookie jar and stopped it. And again, it has never been the same thing twice. Always has been a little something different with twists and turns to it. They seem to think they have a handle on it and they are encouraged it is going to get done this time.
And that is something I cannot stress enough. Nobody has come out and denied that the money was there. Nobody said Al was full of malarkey or anything. Nothing. All they have tried to do is delay it, delay it, delay it. Nobody has denied that we are owed the money. Nobody denied that the money exists. They just don't want to give it up.
Q: The one thing that is different now, primarily is that there is a 3.87 Trillion lawsuit sitting in their doorstep if they don't do something this time. I hope that is enough hammer.
Wyatt: Well, that is just it. That is the leverage--putting this out all publicly. They don't want it. It is my opinion that is why we have seen Mary Shapiro and Christopher Cox wanted that new bill where the SEC won't have to cover settlements. Plus, they are covering their butt. If this was out in the mainstream media and people knew about it, the market would tank. They know they won't be able to keep it down forever.
Wyatt: Coach, I have no idea. That is Al's choice, Al's decision. Al tends to tell us things after the fact. He doesn't tell us his game plan, his thoughts or what could be next. He tells us after the fact.
Wyatt: As far as the interest, I am sure it is accruing and we're all going to get it. If you read Al's complaint, it is for 3.87 Trillion and counting.
Q: Do you think that 3.87 Trillion was including the interest?
Wyatt: Yes, I believe the original 3.78 Trillion is accruing interest. I am sure we will get paid it.
Q: Are we going to get all of the interest on the money that has been held up so far?
Wyatt: That is my opinion. Why wouldn't we? It is ours. Who else should it go to? It's our money. We wouldn't we be entitled to it?
Q: I appreciate all the comfort you are bringing shareholders.
Q: My question is this and yes, I appreciate all the help we can get because we are stressed from up and down and on and off that merry-go-round. But a Trust, I thought, doesn't gain any interest. I don't believe anybody pays the interest. If the Trust is in Bank of America, then BoA could say, 'okay, I have one trillion to loan out or I have one trillion plus 400 million on the books then people feel they could go for loans and pay interest and really they are lending air the way they naked short. So I don't see any real interest, but I could be way off.
Wyatt: Well, that's the thing. None of us know where this money is. We don't know for sure if it is held in a Trust. We don't know if somebody is using it or doing what with it. That is what we have been told. It is just my opinion that if there is interest being paid on the money, the interest should be paid to us.
Q: As long as they are paying for the use of it.
Q: How do you make money off the interest off of money that is not yours, then not pay interest or some of that interest to the account holder to whom it is in the name of?
Wyatt: Well, I think it is all irrelevant, or excuse me--relevant about the interest. 3.87 Trillion dollars is a phenomenal amount of money. It is a phenomenal ROI. It doesn't matter how much you own based on what you paid for it. It is an incredible ROI.
Q: Yeah Wyatt, it sure is. But it has been speculated that the interest has been gathered by the government for their own greed. I guess it is kind conflicting with what you are saying. I really want to believe your end. The greedy government here.
Wyatt: Let me ask you this. We have always heard that Maheu collected all of this money. Why would Maheu hand that money over to the crooked thieves in the government? Wouldn't he hold that money in his personal possession and put it into accounts where it could grow? We have been told he is not going to release money until the government is ready. Well, all the government has to do is go print theirs. So, I don't think the government is holding the money and making more money off of it. Just my thought. I think that the money Maheu collected is in a safe place and earning interest. The interest is probably funding this whole operation.
Q: We might as well get all this chit chat out of the way, because what is going to happen when you open your mail and there is a packet in there and at the top of the packet has a disclaimer on it that says you are under NDA for any discussion on any radio, television which would include paltalk, message boards, and things like that? You open the packet up and first thing you are going to see is your NDA and who is going to come into the room and talk about it? Nobody saying nothing. Game over.
Wyatt: I wouldn't worry about much of anything. Maybe pop into paltalk tomorrow and see if we get lucky for tomorrow. If not, take the weekend off and come back Monday morning and let's hope and pray something happens.
Q: If you are still in here Wyatt, thank you for coming up to the mic and sharing any thoughts you have. Thanks a lot. It really helps the shareholders out and that is really important. Thank you very much.
Q: Yes, absolutely it has been a real blessing to have you in the room tonight to answer some questions and shed some light on what's going on for those who aren't connected to Al and can get this information. Thanks a lot again.
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Post by misisipiflyer on Aug 13, 2010 6:35:07 GMT -5
I had the good fortune to hear from Al today. I had expressed surprise that Al would indeed communicate detailed information to anyone before he is ready and he provided some clarification.
He did, in fact, speak to Acca on the telephone, at Acca's request, this afternoon. The conversation was not lengthy, nor specific. Al told him (and me) that he remains very positive, that he is sure the funds are real and will be released.
Al DID NOT say we would have ER on Monday; he DID say that we could have ER tomorrow, or over the weekend, or Monday, etc. Accordingly he asked if I would be kind enough to clarify to the members of the various boards.
Al also told me it is his intent to put out some sort of an update about what's been going on, either Friday or over the weekend - depending on developments.
And THAT, is the truth.
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Post by misisipiflyer on Aug 13, 2010 6:36:12 GMT -5
8:04 PM) very_tired15: I heard a recap 2nd hand
(8:04 PM) very_tired15: Al told me about 1/2 hour ago that he is hopeful for Monday...
(8:05 PM) cutglass_1: alan iyho you think monday is a go
(8:05 PM) very_tired15: Sure thing.. I oonly hope and pray that "hopeful" equates to it reallyhappenong.
(8:06 PM) caseco_1_1: if al has er allan, how long till we see cash? acca said he doestn know.
(8:06 PM) very_tired15: Well.. Al is not in control of when the money gets distributed (as far as I know).. thus, he is unable to be definitive...
(8:07 PM) very_tired15: He said that there may be follow-up info on ffgo tomorrow.. (or so he heard).. also saidhe was not going to file the First Amended Complaint yet.. it is a hammer not yet to be played
(8:08 PM) hoochie_7: A/H said he would only speak when 100% done.... done = cash in hand
(8:08 PM) very_tired15: I do not know if it will AH who speaks or the info comomg from elsewhere
(8:08 PM) very_tired15: He did not refile today
(8:08 PM) mach1cobra: Allan in your opinion is acca spot on?
(8:09 PM) very_tired15: Well, Acca did speak to AH today.. and much of what he said about Monday was true.. but I did not hear him talk
(8:10 PM) very_tired15: He just told me that he hoped it would be done Monday.. he seemed pretty much like usual.. unemotional.. but we did laugh about a couple things.. so I guess you could say he was ina good mood.. and he was receptive to talking to me.. in a generally good mood
(8:11 PM) rfexciter: Allen, any mention of PPS, please TIA
(8:11 PM) very_tired15: Al has never mentioned a PPS to me... he told me to look at the complaint
(8:11 PM) cutglass_1: alan what did you and mr hodges laugh about?
(8:12 PM) mach1cobra: Allan, I heard Acca say that once Al announces ER he is done, then what happens from there?
(8:12 PM) carverchick_2: allan so if i'm understanding..... once Al gets ER his job is done? We are then relying on the trustees to disburse our money?
(8:12 PM) very_tired15: I told him that Bonnie must have by now a destroyed liver and all of his hair pulled out... because if I were him and he were dealing with all the bs tossed at him, I would be drinking heavily and pulling my hair out one strand at a time.. and a couple other things
(8:14 PM) wizeguytrading: Allan, do we have a fair funds administrator yet?
(8:15 PM) very_tired15: don't know wizeguy
(8:18 PM) very_tired15: I would not be surprised if the TA converting over the last large block of shares might be part of the issue. I am just speculating, but the gift shares he gave away would requirea background check to avoid giving the free shares to the bad guys
(8:25 PM) very_tired15: I once asked AH if the trustee would have any reason to hold up the funds after he got receipt and he replied, "Hell No."
(8:31 PM) goober_54: Al: "This means that the “work” remaining to be finished will not consume more hours than can be accomplished within one day." Didn't say it would take that much work to get $$$ in our hands
(8:36 PM) very_tired15: AH said look to the complaint for the PPS
(8:33 PM) very_tired15: Yes, I spoke to AH after Acca spoke to him.
(8:53 PM) very_tired15: 639b shares into #.87T
(8:53 PM) very_tired15: 3.8
(8:53 PM) very_tired15: and I believe some of the shares were canceled since then
(8:54 PM) cutglass_1: so what do you arrive at alan>
(8:54 PM) vonzip: $6.0563
(8:57 PM) puffer_8: OK $6.06 or $6.22 take your pick
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