Acca recap in GV 10/8/10 & MP3

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Accadacca recap from the Grape Vine on October 8, 2010

Acca October 8, 2010
Acca is not indorsing MP3

Nine (9) days ago Acca said, he would be here.

Also stated, there are a couple of docs, because of legal reasons he can’t discuss them. The reason is the situation is so close it is not important, or appropriate to wipe the other sides nose. So do no ask questions about docs.

So don’t tie up the scroll with those types of questions.
Acca, ON Time!

Acca began with...
Second of all Des, you’re under paid!
Lots to touch on in a short period of time.
I have to be out by 8
Let me fix one thing.
I need 2 minutes…brb

Des, although he wants to bring info to us…he has to be careful, because of legal reasons. Based on that I hope you can respect that!
Some of the things he has to do…are protectiveness!

Acca, you guys want to ask questions, or how do you want to do this.

Des, How much and when…

Acca, the lofty expectations going around the Internet…are extremely lofty!
The king, and the new order etc…secret societies, the president…as time went by an individual said, I would run into that…so, I have to be very careful.
Phone call..

Q: Where is music's money
Are we going to be trading again.

Acca, Music got drunk, and doesn’t remember where he put it.
Answer to second question…No trading!

Floridanative: ACCA: is there a chance we'll hear from AL tonight?
Acca, Florida, NO, I don’t think tonight.

Q Rights offering?
Acca, NO! That is the latest I’ve heard.

Q: Are you being contrarian
Acca, I’m being truthful

Q, Are you aware of everything with CMKX or compartmental
Acca, I think I’m pretty aware of most of ….. lost him

Acca, I understand the RR’s I was the one six yrs ago that was the topic for months.
Two weeks ago, I went on a trip out west, then Vegas, I was told No…just payment! It did change. I was not given a reason. I asked, and no reply! So there you go.

Q: U said, we would hear from al tonight! How about this weekend?
Acca, Probably next week!

Q: when you went to Vegas did you ask about CIM
Acca, My understanding on CIM …it is going to be way down the road now.
I am extremely positive. I understand what the payment is! It is a principle thing! There is a lot of bad people involved in this stock, that was suppose to be good! This is the real world! I thought we would continue, but I guess not!
This is an extremely touchy topic! This is a different animal now.
Just getting damages now is a monumental task!

Q you said, something about the high numbers; Do you believe AH 3.8T?
I believe al, there is a trust
The coordination is very complex

GR8, is the transfer agent going to start earning some money…
Acca, Yes! Absolutely!

Q: How long after the announcement., before money in hand.
Acca, the announcement will be made from AH.
It is about a 90% probability from what I heard, and saw.
I can’t see it going beyond next week.
For the love of God I can’t

Q: what time laps after the announcement until we get money in hand?
Acca, I’m under the impression 3-5 business days after Al speaks.

Q: Will there be coordinated effects with other settlements?
Acca, No, I don’t see that!

Q: you mentioned that the 3.8T was extreme. However, it wasn’t in the court hearing, but in the filed suit?
Acca, I’m aware of what he said, that number is wrong.
He didn’t lie, he is wrong!

TB, isn’t there some type of penalty then?
Acca, I don’t know…I’m not a lawyer.
He believes…that is the number!

pebbles08: Saltydog said the Whitehouse changed the amount not specifically POTUS.
Acca there are two trust…one has that amount!

Q: two visits you said, we won’t hear the news formal…secondly what about the filing from the company?
Acca, The entity that was going to announce it…thought it would be better, if Al announced it. I’m not going to discuss the people in your second question.

Q: are there two situations…bonified, and non?
Where does the sale of lands fall, and Naked short?
Acca, the electronic was a huge hurdle…to how the payment would be disbursed to electronic. That has been sticky from day one. I don’t know why that is. I have an opinion, but I’m keeping that to myself.
Secondly, there are two separate trust…one is in front, and one in back. One is totally different than the one behind you. That is all I can say on that.

Q: So there is money from the land claims and from NS is that fair to say?
Acca, that is fair to say! The second is a whole different animal.

Q could you say interest was a major factor?
Acca, Imho Yes! That is just an opinion!
Acca, again the smallest amount I’ve seen is 3.46, and the highest wasn’t much more than that!
You may think that is ridiculous, but you factor in people have died waiting, some have lost everything…I don’t know what the right amount is! I think that is fair!

Q: we were told at the end of Dec tax were taken out, even stated it in court, and and extra 90b was added on. Do you think that was an issue of delay?
Acca, two trust - the first will be taxed the second has been taxed…lots of issues with it taxes, insurance, and ….emotional one.

Q: for years you’ve said, event driven…has the event happened?
Acca, the event happened years ago…the 1st event. Then several events happened…then no events whatsoever!

Q: just an opinion, have you heard mention that somewhere along the way. There were corresponds from RM? I thought about it when you were talking about documents. The thought sounded possible…he has family, etc.
Acca, absolutely! It is like the guy on death row that still commits murder.
He has Peter, and he was briefed. There are other things that we will discuss later, it is too much for Hollywood!

Q; Des, one thing you mention as you came in the room…limited to 8 - I would like to give Jacbert the mic.
Acca, NO, NO, go ahead! I actually do have to leave at 8

Q: is there a time frame for AH to announce ER
Acca, As of now no, but I was told today there should be an announcement next week.

Q: if you bought shares from Deli they won't be worth as much
Acca, That is absolute non-sense.

Q: Will I get the 3.46 in one shot?
Acca, Yes, one shot

Q: Will we have to turn in our certs for the money?
Acca, I was told Yes!

Q Was Deli helping or hurting the situation?
Acca, It makes no difference.
Q: When is the last time you talked to AH
Acca, I talked to Al a couple of months ago.
I don’t know anything about Richmond.
Acca, this is my last night
Des will be taking over.

Q: what was the purpose about your visit
The powers behind the scene know about the pain…not knowing…and for what it is worth. They figure having an hour with Acca may help answer those questions. The purpose is nothing more or less than a stress reliever!
Acca, I already said that, but a short version of that!

Q: ubet, are we all in a trust…one set up for each shareholder?
Acca, individually NO!

Q: you told us 3 days ago you were coming. Has things changed in the last 3 days as far as material?
Acca, you guys are smart…it is damage control. They sprinkle tid bits…they’re in here. They monitor me!

Q master trust?
Acca, there is a data base!

Q: you keep saying we’re smart, but complicated! To complicated to explain.
Acca, NEITHER! This is or you will never experience this ever again. It is a something that only happens ONCE! I can’t explain what is involved…it is border-line insane, but is real. There is a lot of bad people involved, and in my mind…it was insane what they did!

Q: will there be a structured settlement?
Acca, there will be a settlement, but not coined structured, shortly you’ll see what it is labeled as!

Q: who or what is the road block?
Acca, it is not who or what…it is the same entity that is coming to a stop!
I know there is one minor…very minor that will be taken care of next week!

Q: Can I take my certificate to AG Wentworth and get a partial loan?
Acca, how many share do you have?
Answer: 9 digits plus
Acca, AG cut will be hmmmm!
Can you retire on 400k?
Don’t worry about AG wentworth

Q: Does AH presently deal with the same handlers as you?
Acca, he deals with the same, but not the magnitude as me!

Q: Crunchy, structure settlements… I think Grophia was thinking years. Will we have access to all our funds at one time?
Acca, there is something attached to it, but we will get into that later!



ty friends

friends tried to keep up with the gist of the discussion. I thank her very much.

[sandi66]

Acca mp3 10-8-2010 Grape Vine www.zshare.net/audio/812998519f234401/

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Accadacca in the Grape Vine paltalk room 10-8-10 Q & A session

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Desperado: This is being piped(from the Grape Vine paltalk room) into the CMKX Information Room, unofficially, even though Acca cannot officially endorse it or an MP3. He knows he has no personal control over that. So, this is an official announcement in his stead that he is not officially endorsing such recordings or pipings.

I have another very, very, very important announcement to make tonight. About 9 days ago, Acca discussed that he would be here tonight on the 8th and he discussed vaguely a couple of documents. Those documents, I will tell you, right now because of legal reasons on his part, will not be disclosed nor even discussed tonight. There is no reason to discuss them and the reason is that the situation is so close to fruition that it is not important or necessary nor appropriate to wipe the other side's nose with any veiled threats or anything else. Things are going good. So, please refrain from discussing or asking questions about documents. The old team has this under control. Acca may elude a little more to them, so please let's not tie up the scroll tonight asking questions about these documents. If and when the time comes that they need to come back into play, the old team will make that decision. And on that note, welcome Accadacca. And you were on time, but our having to reset the room is what prevented you from being perfectly on time. And I gave up my "fish-n-chips" to be here. LOL

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Acca: There is lots to touch on in a short period of time. I am under some.. under the gun here. I have to be out by eight, eight o'clock. So, there is still quite a bit of time. Let me fix one thing here.. give me 2 minutes. I see something in the bottom corner I've got to get rid of here. I'll be right back.


Desperado: During this pregnant pause, one of the things Acca and I discussed is that while he wants to bring in information to us, he still has certain very important constraints to protect his own legal situation, his own personal situation and his own situation as a shareholder. And I, probably more than anybody else, can certainly understand because I have been sharing things with him for a long, long time. And based on that, I hope all of you can respect and respect and respect that that's important to him and we do not want to put him in any jeopardy above and beyond what he is already in just by being in here and ad libbing what he does. Some of the things he has to do are protectionist in nature and properly so.


Acca: Okay.. sorry about the delay. How do you guys want to do this tonight? What do you think, Desperado?


Desperado: I have no idea since we do not have the time we usually have to discuss this thing. We know what the questions are going to be. Let me ask them to you... How much and when? LOL. Why don't you just turn it loose and, Acca is on limited time. So, he will try to answer the questions. Be creative and think about things that will serve the purpose of the whole room and if he can answer them he will and if he can't answer then obviously he won't. He is an expert at that.


Acca: Of course, those are the most common questions... "how much" and "when"? How much?.. The lofty expectations that have been thrown around the internet.. message rooms and message boards and so on about CMKX.. you know.. those are extremely extremely lofty expectations.. Hodges.. with the Queen and the King and the New World Order.. you can go on and on about that. There are 2 very different points of view and it can almost be considered a fact that it's a smoke screen, if you will. As far the President is involved.. umm.. secret societies and so on...it's you know.. first and foremost when I first started doing this, when I was on the payroll and actually getting compensated, there was no talk about that. In fact, it had nothing to do with that. And as time went by an individual stated that I would run into this..where you have these insane and crazy rumors... you know..short of aliens landing and paying the CMKX shareholders. That individual, I believe knew this, because he told me 4 1/2 yrs ago. It was crazy... I am like.."nah, that is never going to happen" and here it is happening. So I, the way I present this...I have to be careful and I think I have been. I can't sit here and have people say, "well, Acca..you know".. whatever it be.. there are so many. I guess the most prominent is the Christopher Story and you know..President Obama.. you have to understand I can't just sit here and say, "uh ha uh ha" and agree with that. I am sorry.

(interruption.. phone) sorry.. I have to take this.

There will be no more delays. I will not answer the phone.. the ringer is off.. that was short and sweet.. it was not a very pleasant phone call. That is the way it is. Anyway.. back to what I was stating. You know where I stand on it. It does not mean Hodges is up to something. You are going to have to figure that out yourselves. You people are very intelligent people. So, you can figure it out.

Payday is going to happen. 100% I know this for a fact. I know for a fact it will happen. Okay? Will it happen in the grandiose scheme some people have stated? No, it will not.

Question: Where is musicman's money? Are we going to trade in the future?

Acca: Answer to first question.. he told me he got drunk one night and can't remember where he put it(musicman corrected him in scroll that he does not drink). The answer to the second question is, no. There will be no trading. This is it. Finished. Once you get payment you can move on. I am sorry about that musicman. It was a joke. No, we will not trade. Absolutely, not.

Question: Will we have Rights Offering?

Acca: The latest I was told was "no".

Question: Are you contrarian tonight or are you being truthful?

Acca: I am being truthful. That is what I was told about 2 weeks ago. I went on a trip.. went home(sound breaking up). Desperado knows.

Question: Are you aware of all of the facts about CMKX or are you compartmentalized still, like you stated some time back?

Acca: I think I am pretty aware of most of the facts.(sound broke up)

Question: Desperado stated to Acca that his sound cut out and then he stated that he(Acca) may have shocked a lot of people with the Rights Offering.. possibility which he didn't say is a 100% sure. A "Rights Offering" usually gives you an opportunity to sell those rights if you don't use them. If there is not a rights offering indicate that shares going forward to a new company be excluded as well or would it just be the monetary rights offering that is common with rights that would be missing?

Acca: I understand the Renounceable Rights, okay? In fact, I was the one.. 5-6 yrs ago.. that was one of the topics months on end. As I stated(we must have broken up)..Two weeks ago I was on a trip to out west. I stopped at ?, Oklahoma(that has nothing to do with anything). I went to Vegas.. I think that was 2 weeks ago I talked to him out there. and I was told, "no, just payment.. that's it". That is what I was told. So, it did change. I was not given a reason and I did ask. There was no reply.

Question: You said, "no".. that we would not hear from Al tonight. Will we hear from him over the weekend, possibly?

Acca: No, I don't. I think you will hear from him next week.

Question: When you went to Vegas, did you also ask about CIM.. the status of CIM.. CIM shares or whatever?

Acca: My understanding on CIM.. that is something we did discuss. That is going to be down the road.. Way, way, way down the road. I am extremely positive. I don't want you to think I am coming off as being negative. I am fine with all of this. I understand what the payment is. Okay? That is fine and dandy. I understand a lot of you are... it's a .. how should I put this.. it is a principle thing. But it is true life. That is just the way it is. There is a lot of bad people.. there is a lot of bad people involved in this stock. There is a lot of bad people in this stock that were suppose to be good people, so. This is the real world. This is not some fantasy. Okay. I am very positive about it. You could look at it and say, "no, I am not positive because I thought we would continue.. especially CIM.. with the royalties and everything. Again.. anything could change. But I know this is extremely touchy topic with the shareholders. Years ago we would go round and round with this.. and ask so many questions about the RR. And I explained it and I explained the proxy. You can throw that out the window right now. It is a different animal. It is so complex that just getting damages is a monumental task. And it has been. You have lived it.

Question: Acca, you said something a while ago about high numbers being put out by various people all the extreme things being said. Do you agree with Al Hodges that there is a trust for 3.87 trillion for the shareholders?

Acca: I agree with Al that there is a trust. That is all I can say on that. I am not going to discuss the amount. I KNOW there is a trust. And again, Al.. the people that coordinated the effort and me and him and some others individuals..yes, absolutely. You have to understand what that coordination is and it is very complex. Okay?

Question: Would you say the transfer agent is going to start earning some money when it comes time after the announcement as far as distribution for the vehicle to get the news out to us. Will they be intricately involved with us.. the TA?

Acca: Yes. Yes, absolutely.

Question: How long would you think from the time an announcement is made, whether it comes from Al Hodges or it comes from another entity,.. how long do you think til then to the time money will be coming in hand?

Acca: "The announcement will be made from Hodges. I am hoping within the next week. And that is about a 90% probability based upon what I was told and what I have seen. And in the past, even though I have said.."100%.. 100%", you have to understand why I said these things. Now tonight.. 90% for next week.. we are that close. I can't see it going beyond next week. I just can't. What I have heard.. what I have discussed with individuals.. I just can't see it going beyond that. I just can't... for the love of God, I just can't."

Question: With that in mind, what time lapse do you think will go between that announcement and the time we will be able to access some money. It shouldn't take very long, because I know pretty much everything will be in place when we get the announcement as far as the money being in place and all. So the distribution goes up with us having to access. How long do you think it will be before we will be able to have some money in hand from that point of the announcement?

Acca: I am under the impression that the distribution will be 3-5 business days after the release of the news.. after Al speaks.. it will be 3-5 business days.

Question: Is there going to be some coordinating efforts, as far as you can see, with any of the World Settlements with us getting paid? Do you see the connection?

Acca: No, I don't see that connection. None whatsoever.

Question: Acca, you mentioned the 3.87 trillion in the context of World Reports as being an "out there" sort of figure. And yet, studiously, if you carefully listen to what the MP3 contained of Al Hodges' court appearance, he never brought any of that material into the court room. However, the 3.87 trillion dollars WAS included in his federal filing. Are you suggesting that the amount of money he filed for, in a federal lawsuit, either does not exist or that it might have been known that money does not exist before he filed that suit? Thank you.

Acca: I am aware of what it says, TBeezley. He is wrong, okay. That number is wrong. I have spoken to.. personally, he has told me the same thing... 3.87trillion. There you go.. he's wrong. He didn't lie. It is just wrong.

Question: Well, I guess the follow-up question is: Isn't there some sort of penalty for knowingly filing umm.. material in a federal court that is known in advance to be wrong? Or does he honestly believe that IS the case and would he knowingly file those documents without having that information handy?

Acca: I don't know. I am not a lawyer, TBeezley. But he honestly thinks that it is 3.87 trillion. God bless him for it. Okay?

Question: You know will just stick my 2 cents worth in here. I am not a lawyer either, but I have never been involved in a lawsuit where I asked only for the amount owed me. Lawyers always go double of triple for what they are seeking with the expectation of reaching a settlement somewhere at a lesser amount. So, again, that is always a possibility as well. And I am not trying to out think or out talk Acca, but I have always been skeptical that that number was the high ceiling taken in bona fide, un bona fide and everyone in between for damages, but that is just my opinion.

Question: It wasn't like he was suing for the amount, Des. He stated there is a trust that has not been released for that amount already.

Acca: Correct. There are 2 trusts. The one he states has that amount in it. There you go. Let's move on. Let's get away from this. I am not going to get sucked into a negative dialogue and discussion with people on our side.. on our TEAM. That's not going to happen.

Question: Two more questions, Acca. A few visits ago you had said that we would not hear the news from Al Hodges and now you just mentioned we would hear from him and I am wondering.. why the change? And the second question is, was there any purpose to the filing done a couple of weeks ago in announcing that all their papers had been filed?

Acca: The entity that was going to announce it thought it best that Al should. Again, this has changed. As far as your second question now.. there is a left and a right. They are on the left and I really don't want to discuss them. I can't. I just can't do it.

Question: Okay, Acca.. number one: There are two separate situations involved as far as the bona fide shareholders and their payment and the electronic, non-bona fides that have to be sorted out.. or are some people thinking it has to be lumped into one big package? And the other question is: Where is the sale of land claims or is that 2 separate trusts?

Acca: My understanding is that is held in electronically and not cert form. That was a HUGE hurdle/obstacle on how the payment was going to disbursed to the electronically held. At first they said, "no, absolutely not". That is why the cert pull.. that has been a sticky situation from day one and again that's what I heard and I am not really professed into going why that is. In fact, I never even delved into it farther than that. I have my own personal opinions on it, but those are my thoughts to myself. We could sit here all night discussing that and that would be pretty boring, I think. Secondly, the second question, Gr8.. again, there are 2 separate trusts. But one is.. how should I put this.. Okay, you have one trust over here sitting in front of you and one in back of you. You have one trust in front of you that contains something TOTALLY different than the one behind you. I don't know if that makes any sense. You can read between the lines. I can't discuss it any further.

Question: Okay, without going any further.. the bottom line is basically..there is money coming to us somewhere along the way from the land claims as well as money coming to us from the naked short. Is that fair to say. I don't care how it is bundled, how it is done. But.. there are monies coming from both those directions. Is that fair to say?

Acca: Oh, absolutely. The first trust was the land claims, so. The second one.. that's another animal. That is a whole different animal right there.

Question: Would you say the interest.. accrued interest was a major issue or major factor in the fact that we've been waiting an extra 10 months to get this money released to us?

Acca: IMO, yes. And that is my opinion. I am stating that is my opinion.

Question: The smallest amount of price per share that I have seen, in the last 2 months, is $3.48. That is the smallest. As far as the highest, it is a little bit more than that, but not much. So, I think again.. so many different people of different corners of the United States and the world in here. You might disagree with that. You might think that is ridiculous, that will never happen. You may think it is half a penny or you might think that is $40 per share. I don't know what the right amount is. People keep asking me. I don't know. I think that is fair. I really do.

Question: We were told that back in the end of December that taxes were taken out by the government. Al has told us that a number of times and he stated that even in court. He also stated there was an extra 90 billion dollars added on for whatever reason.. loan, timeframe.. whatever it happened to be after the first of the year. Do you believe that 90 billion dollars and the taxes or the interest with dealing with that amount of money that was added on... do you think that was an issue that was delaying us to some degree?

Acca: Well, again, there are 2 trusts. The first trust will be taxed. The second trust, in my understanding is that taxes were already taken out. The issues and sticky points with that second trust.. the big one.. taxes and insurance and there is a third and I am trying to find the right word. It is an emotional one, you know.. pheww.. it is something else.

Question: For years, Acca, you have been saying "this is event-driven". I guess I want to know.. has the event happened yet? And, I am not talking about that ? TV show.

Acca: Well, the event happened years ago. You know.. the first event. Then several events happened after that and so on and so on. Then it came to where no events.. no events whatsoever. So.. one time.. it is not..

Question: I was thinking about this the other day.. and this is just an opinion.. Have you either heard or heard mentioned or think yourself personally, that somewhere along the way as this thing winds down as getting done, that there was some kind of correspondence perhaps from Robert Maheu that was legacied for us before he passed away as a follow-up to this entire process and what everybody has gone through with it. I thought about it at the time you were talking about documents and I don't care about the documents because you said they were not an issue now. That is fine. But that is what made me think about it in the first place. The thought of it sounded very possible. I mean he still has got family around, people involved in this whole thing.. whether they are in the forefront or the rear. But I was wondering whether you thought or might have any ideas as to whether or not there might be something out there coming to us.. perhaps from Robert Maheu, that might have been written quite a while back since he was not that old when he was getting involved in this and he may have wanted to stay and correspond or say something. What are your thoughts about that?

Acca: Oh.. absolutely. It is like the individual on death row and still commits a murder although he is locked up. He is on death row. He has got Peter also. Peter was briefed, you know and it's.. there are other things we will discuss in the future that is just.. it is even too much for Hollywood. It really is.

(At this point Desperado reminded Acca about his timeframe of 8 PM ET time limit and suggesting how he might want to take questions at this point from the Information Room members as Acca had been speaking from the Grape Vine room up to this point and also suggested that members in Vine could perhaps read questions from the Information room scroll if they could maybe read from that room those questions for Acca)

Acca: No, no.. go ahead. I do have to leave at eight. It is not like the old days where I could go over. I actually do have to leave at eight.

Question: Ask Acca if he is saying, in fact, that the least amount of money we would get would be $3.48 per share. Is that the least?

Acca: That is correct. As of 3 weeks ago. That was the least amount I was told. Again, it can be north of that. There is a few variable why it would be north of that. There are no variables why it would be south. It is locked in at that. It can only go up. This is what I was told. I cannot elaborate why. This is what I was told.

Question: Is there a time frame for Al Hodges to announce?

Acca: As of this morning, no... a time frame.. a set in stone..no, as of this morning. There was a.. how do I put this.. this afternoon I was told something that could transpire by next week. It should. So, it was not set in stone.

Acca: Okay. I see that question(in scroll). "What was your real purpose in coming in tonight?" I was told I had to come in for one hour. I was told this a week ago. There you go if that answers your question.

Question; Acca, there was a post a week ago or maybe 2 weeks ago. Maybe it has been longer than that. I don't remember who the poster was on one of the boards, but it caused a lot of talk in the room. What they said is, "if you bought shares from Deli or if you transferred some of your shares in the last 2-3 months to some children of yours, those certs would not be worth as much. Can you elaborate on that please?

Acca: That is absolute nonsense. Nonsense.

Question: Will we get the $3.00+ in one go?

Acca: Yes, that will be in one shot.

Question: Acca, will we have to turn our certs in for that money?

Acca: I was told, "yes".

Acca: Getting back to the Deli question: "Was Deli helping or hurting our situation?" Neither. The shares that are being bought from him... they are going to be worth the same amount whether you bought them 6 or 7 yrs ago or whenever you bought them. That is an easy question. That is a no-brainer.

Question: When is the last time you talked to Hodges? And do you know anything about any of the information that he left Richmond with?

Acca: I talked to Al a couple of months ago. And, no.

Question: I saw several questions in the scroll as to what the purpose of your visit tonight was. I know we(Desperado and Acca) have spoken of this and I will make a statement and if I am incorrect, you can certainly step in and correct it. The powers that be behind the scenes are very aware of pain and concerns that lack of knowledge, lack of conversation and posts have cost them and for whatever it is worth, they just figured this medium--letting you guys have a shot at Acca for an hour or whatever, might relieve a little of that stress. It might actually answer some questions. So, it is inappropriate for them, where they are with the people they are dealing with right now, to be the ones who are speculating, or talking or posting.. but the purpose of him coming in is really nothing more..nothing less than a stress reliever and that is why they wanted him to come in. If you want to elaborate on that or deny it, have at it Acca.

Acca: I already answered it.. what you said.. but a shorter version of it. lol

Question: Acca, I too want to thank you for coming in and being straight up with us. We appreciate it very much. I've got one last question. I know that money is already in a trust. But are we all.. all of us in a trust already.. is a trust set up for each shareholder?

Acca: Hmm.. well, thank you too. That is a vague question. Individually set up to each one? No, no.

Question: I know you told us about 3 days ago you made a statement that you were going to come in here.. you knew a few days ahead of time you were asked to come in.. I was just wondering if before you came in, anywhere between that time you made the announcement you were asked to come in and getting on with us.. was there some changes made.. to make new course correction as to what the material would be.. obviously something had to do with as far as the document,. I understand that.. but was there some last minute corrections that you were apprised of before you came in here tonight based on activities that have been going on these past few days?

Acca: Well, you guys are smart, intelligent individuals. It is damage control, basically. It has been kicked around.. never said it. It is damage control with the wait... not IF we are going to get our money.. but it's the WHEN. It is just the delay after delay. Then you know.. then they sprinkle some little tidbits for me to relay. And they are in here under assumed names and they listen. They monitor me... you know..and it's fine. But then again, the 100 people that thank me.. appreciate me for coming.. and the 101 people who hate me...and say I am a liar.. BSer.. blah blah blah and all this. It's worth it. It is worth it to the 100 people, so. I thank you guys for putting up with me and listening to a lot.. a LOT of me over the years, okay. A lot. A lot of hours with you guys.

Question: This is a follow-up on the Trust thing. So, there are no individuals, but are we in a Master Trust altogether?

Acca: There is a database and the money will be disbursed to each individual in the database. That is what I was told.. along those lines.. something like that.

Question: Hi Acca. Without getting too involved. You keep saying we are a bunch of intelligent individuals and then you comment this whole situation is very complicated. Is it too complicated for us intelligent individuals to understand or too complicated for you to explain?

Acca: No, it is not too complicated for you people, but it is VERY complicated for me to understand it and explain it. Just kidding. Neither. What I mean. Now here me out. This is.. you will not experience anything like this in your lifetime or your kids or their kids and their kids. They just won't. It is one of those phenomenons where it only happens once in a lifetime type deal.. several lifetimes. There is no.. again, I am older now... I just can't explain to you guys what is involved here and what is.. it is borderline insane, actually.. yet it is real. It is reality. There are a lot of bad people that are involved that... in my mind, they are insane for doing what they did and they got caught. But again.. now we are going off in another direction here and I don't want to do that tonight.

Question: Hi again. I just want to say thank you Acca for coming in and visiting with us this afternoon. We always love to hear you. My question is: Will there be a structured settlement?

Acca: There will be a settlement, although it is not coined "Structured". And again, very shortly you will see what it will be labeled as.

Question: Can you tell us who or what is the roadblock?

Acca: It is not just a "who" and it is not just a "what", but it is the same entity and that is coming to a screeching halt here. That is why I am extremely, EXTREMELY.. how do I.. I have to be very careful of my words here, because I know it is being MP3'd here. I know this individual(s) that have to listen to me.. do monitor me.. I know that.. and I want everyone to understand this, that I know there is one minor, very minor very minor obstacle that will be taken care of next week, early next week then Al can make an announcement. Two more(questions). Then I have to go guys.

Question: Good evening Grape Vine. Hello Mr. Acca. Can I take my certificate down to AG Wentworth and see if I can't get an upfront partial loan with my shares?

Acca: How many shares do you have?

Questioner: oh..it's 9 digits plus.

Acca: Okay. Let's see what will AG's cut be? Okay.. can you retire on 400,000? LOL Don't worry about AG Wentworth.

Question: Does Al Hodges presently.. does he deal with the same handlers that you are dealing with now or are they from different directions?

Acca: He deals with the same handlers, but not to the magnitude that I do, but he does. One more(question)

Question: Good evening Acca and thank you so much for coming in tonight. I just want to go back to the question grophia asked you. When she asked you about the structured settlements, I think she was thinking along the lines: would the payout be over a number of years or months or whatever? I think the question was: will we have access to all of our funds at one time or will it be structured and paid out over a period of tine, is the question.

Acca: Right, I understood the question. There is something attached to it. That is what I meant by that. I can't really elaborate on that, but we will get into that again in a future date. I gotta go guys. Thank you so much.


Desperado: Acca, on behalf of everybody in all the rooms that are listening.. we appreciate you being here. We appreciate you being on time and we know what you are doing isn't easy. I know, especially, this isn't easy and thanks again for being here and putting up with us.



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PJ

[misisipiflyer]

I sat quietly last night and listened to the latest episode of the Acca Show, and as usual, it was all smoke and mirrors. No new earthshattering info, ( no surprise here). In fact I,as well as many others present, detected a subtle effort to downplay the future of the shareholders.

I recieved an IM last night stating that "Acca put his foot in his mouth" tonight, by saying Al Hodges was wrong about the 3.87t in the trust fund(s). If I remember correctly, those numbers were originaly from Mr. Maheu, so I guess Acca was saying ole IBM was wrong. MAJOR OOPS on Acca's part.

It has been a long road for everyone involved, everyone is tired. Tired of the "next weeks", tired of being "misled", lied to, used, abused,slandered,herded around like the proverbial sheep that we have been called by the bashers.

That warm and fuzzy feeling, most had for Acca has faded, if not gone. I can remember at one time, the mere mentioning of Acca appearing in a room to speak, brought a packed house, scroll going by at a dizzying pace, ACDC blaring away in the speakers, only to be two hours late, and then have mic trouble for another hour or so. But, not any longer, as barely an eyebrow is raised at this juncture in time. Many started putting 2 & 2 together and figured out what his agenda/job really was, as well as just WHO he worked for etc.

Will Acca return once again to deaf ears as he did last night? More than likely, he will return, but if we are paid by then, he will find only empty rooms to speak to, as most will be long gone.

Finally, a word of advice to Acca's so called handlers; "It ain't working any more"! The people are tired of the Acca dog and pony show and have figured it out. To repeatedly mislead and blatantly lie to the shareholders may come back to haunt you one day. PAY THE SHAREHOLDERS!!!!
regards;
'Flyer

[jacbert]

Thanks ACCA for coming in. I really appreciate all the time and effort you have put in over the years to keep the shareholders together. I know its been tough and with so many detractors its been uphill both ways for sure. I know if it was your choice the shareholders would have been paid long ago. I really liked your straight forward business style this time. Thanks for answering the most frequently asked questions (WHEN AND HOW MUCH). I look forward to next week and the long awaited word from Mr. Hodges. Well done Acca!

As for the people who been caught up in the WR, Casper, Poof, and RAP soaps... I hope you won't be too disappointed.

jacbert

[zuki2004]

I would also like to thank you Acca for all the years you have put up with us. I understand that the task you had was far harder to do than most of the shareholders can imagine. In my opinion, I think alot of the shareholders that are in the rooms as of late, are newbies... who don't understand all the history of just how many shareholders have come, and gone. I would also like to say, UNLIKE SOME OTHERS, that I appreciate all the info I gather in the rooms, whether or not I agree with their messages, I think it best to keep my personal opinions to myself rather that rant or try to belittle them. Remember this: a still tongue makes a wise head !!!!!

[sandi66]

By: oil.ipo
10 Oct 2010, 07:42 AM EDT
Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 964097 of 964098
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"very_tired15: AH just sent a general update to the plaintiffs. Basically, he said that progress was made and he still feels strongly about victory soon to be at hand"

This statement above (no fault of Mr. Treffey) I am willing to give him that much;

*Makes as much sense as ACCA's appearance.
*Has no real/value meaning other than no final transfer of wealth in reality given the time, and the waiting for the many, with no answers as to the "WHAT IS GOING ON". "WHERE IS IT?" "WHEN IS IT GOING TO OCCUR"? Certainly not that Mr. Hodges owes anyone a statement, but at this point it's fair to say that he is a designated communicator. Who else is communicating to these shareholders in any capacity? Limited as it appears.

I support the notion that the shareholders are on the roundest, smallest CMKX race track of no destination (follow me) until some entity, human being picks up "destination race car #.54" from the track and puts it on the straight and narrow payment road which inevitably leads to somewhere financially beneficial, and so fruitful. For now, it's communications which go round and round, windows down, radio blaring XMAS carols, demonstrating endless cycle of nothing. The dark space in your mind before REM sleep is more entertaining thus enlightening.

The best hints to a payday are the ones which are silent. They do not insult the intelligence of thousands of supporters. That/silence was going well for a while, and could have been the real precursor to a financial/windfall of a BOMB going off. Then ACCA, now this. Until today. Hodges basically had the cash sts, by virtue of some leaks, and it was no more than the hours in your imagination as to when some announcement would be forthcoming for notification. Now it's back to meat baloney, and chicken strips drizzled with rumors.

Waiting for what? Give it up already. Where is the specific update that says "your cash is coming?" That is the way it should be reading as a result of NO return visit to Richmond VA. Oh, but that trip is coming. SOON. GUARANTEED, you'll see. Did anyone expect ACCA'S update to gel with Hodges update to any plaintiff?

My bet is that it will not be an AL Hodges update at all for notification. IF HODGES HAD A SUCCESSFUL VA TRIP there would be no waiting. Would there be, any waiting?? Better yet was the trip even necessary for any funds transfer in order to execute a shareholder payment? Who really knows?? Hodges never said anything.

Finally, and SADLY Bhollenegg was not correct in his assumption about Mr. Hodges communicating this past week with these shareholders. Does not appear that there was the level of success (off any record) that justified such communications. However, There was absolutely ZERO, NONE , NO reason to keep all of these folks waiting yet another week for what? This above. That shows a lot of concern for shareholders//SOR who made this thing possible years ago. It's either "A" , DONE, or "B" not done. How hard is it to tell the shareholders without all the build up, and anticipation. Just my perception. They got ya waiting, and watching, and waiting some more. Always the way.

END OF STORY = THE REAL STORY..

AIMHO, and with great respect for anyone REALLY working on the ending to this mess. MESS! I know there are "many" hard at work in the background, never doubted that for a minute. It's all the shareholders have to hang onto anyway. IMVHO, Oil

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